Drive failures after using asciiexpress.net Apple Disk Server

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I was thrilled to find disk images to recreate the old disks that I had when we brought our IIes back to life, but shortly after finding the Apple Disk Server online I made a few disks then attempted to reuse an old disk and was met with a disk err on my original duodisk. I bought a single drive which arrived today, verified that it read previously made disks OK and when I went to make a new 3.3 disk it fell to the same fate!

Does anyone know what is going on here? The media on this disk didn't look damaged. I am baffled, frustrated and angry that I lost both of my drives...

Dave Pyatt
Alliance, Ohio USA

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Re: Drive failures after using asciiexpress.net Apple Disk ...

While others more knowledgeable than I can probably tell you the how's and why's, in doing the same thing as you I have had several floppies that once put into the drive render the drive useless.

The solution I found was a simple head cleaning fixed the problem. No, the head was not dirty per se (no visible dirt like I have seen on other drives) but at first taking the drive cover off and cleaning the head with isopropyl alcohol and later (once I got one) simply putting a cleaning floppy in the drive and running it for 30 seconds brought the drive(s) right back to life.

I know, not the technical explanation you were looking for (because I do not have one!) but doing as I said has now worked for me every time.

By the way, do NOT put that disk back in a drive!
Zan

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Re: Drive failures after using asciiexpress.net Apple Disk ...

It went in the trash! Unfortunately, so did my 5-1/6 cleaning disk not more than a month ago too! I will have to clean up the duo first and if it works then tackle the single... I have a 14 day return period so I guess I better get out there and take the duo apart right now!

DaveP

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Re: Drive failures after using asciiexpress.net Apple Disk ...

My first guess is you're trying to use High Density (HD) instead of Double Density (DD) media.

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Re: Drive failures after using asciiexpress.net Apple Disk ...

Good call, Zan! I forgot that we used to have to maintain these drives... I was the victim of a dirty disk! I now have a working DuoDrive and Apple 5.25 drive! THANKS A MILLION!!!!

DaveP

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Re: Drive failures after using asciiexpress.net Apple Disk ...

I had that happen once or twice (HD instead of DD disks) but I have original Apple Disks (one was an old DOS 3.3 original another was a ProDOS User's Disk) and also a Beagle Brother's disk that caused the same thing to a half dozen different drives (yes, glutton for punishment and determined to make it work!!!!....it didn't Wink

Glad everything is working.
Zan

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Re: Drive failures after using asciiexpress.net Apple Disk ...

Recycling old DSDD IBM disks, David... just happened to get a dirty one second disk I pulled to use and mudded up the heads... Then stuck the same disk in the new drive... DUH!

I figure I'll NEVER fire up an IBM with low-density drives ever again, so the disks are getting re-used for Apple and Commodore.

Really would like to get a SCSI system for the Apples. I was just blaming the new unproved technology and trusting the ancient technology... dang... and I'm an I.T. helpdesk specialist... Need to go back 30 years and just be a GEEK again! Smile

DaveP