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Good Afternoon All,
Todays Pick:
1. $250.00 for a Used Keyboard???
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182126990907?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
It boggles the mind. lol
Steven
How about a $495 Mouse to go with your $250 Keyboard?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Early-Mouse-M0100-First-Week-of-1984-Apple-Macintosh-Mac-128k-NICE-M0001-/141989928946?hash=item210f425ff2:g:LYEAAOSwKfVXKoFb
...and how about a 10$ cable that will be shipped for 77$ ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Official-Apple-II-590-0191-A-Serial-Printer-Cable-IIc-IIe-6-Vintage-Working-/201582418532?hash=item2eef3f9a64:g:7kcAAOSwWTRWuocU
tokabln,
I just shot the seller an email asking why he could not
ship using a USPS Medium Flat Rate Box for about $15.00.
In all actuality he could probably use a Small FRB
for about $7.50.
Steven
Good Evening All,
Today is General Observation Saturday
(Also known as Minor Rant Day). lol
The Apple IIe & IIe Platinum.
The workhorses of all Apple II units.
Most times in the last couple of
years you could buy one for between
$25.00 and $35.00 on eBay.
Some of them came loaded with cards
or came with Duo-Disk Drives or both.
This year it seems to have changed.
The Starting Price of a stripped IIe
Is up to $99.00 and can be upwards of
$400.00 or more.
What is worse is that people are breaking them down
and selling the parts for what you should be paying
for a complete IIe. Motherboards are a good example.
IIe units are VERY Plentiful.
They are not rare.
Am I missing something here?
That's it.
The minor rant for this evening.
All other Observations are always welcome.
Steven
I got my IIe in 2012 for $85. With two Disk ][s, 43 disks, a monitor, an ImageWriter II (which I stupidly broke), a joystick (which I also stupidly broke), a Super Serial Card, and an 80-column card with memory expansion.
I got my IIe last week for free, with two drives and the mean green screen, by demonstrating to the previous owner that I respected the old-school systems (told him the story of how I worked at McDonalds for an entire summer when I was 14 (1984), at $2.85 / hour, to save up to buy a used II+). Added that I loved DOS 3.3, and he handed it all over.
Now, the power supply is wonked, so I have one on the way from FleaBay, but still...the costs of these units is very curious. The used PS itself is costing me US$45, and don't get me started on shipping costs to Canada. USA vendors are out of control with their shipping charges.
Today's Special items:
1. The $1200.00 Mac SE/30:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/141995632918?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I reminded the seller that All Macs, from the 128 all the way through the SE/30 had the signatures.
It is not rare.
17May16 UPDATE:
Apparently I was incorrect.
The seller contacted me and informed me that several manufacturers made the case for the SE/30
and that only a few were made with the "Signatures" on the case interior.
I would appreciate anyone with the knowledge to confirm that for me
as I was under the impression that all Mac SE/30's had them.
2. The 100,000.00 Software:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322111882252?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I don't know why this was listed under Apple, as it is IBM software.
Maybe because of the historical reference?
Happy Tuesday All,
Steven
WOAH!
Many times an insanely high BIN price is because the seller has no clue what it's worth on the high end. This should sell for a couple of grand at the very most.
Hi Steven,
Perhaps this link might shed some light on the signatures issue:
http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Signing_Party.txt
I understand that cases made in Ireland did not have the signatures ??
Laurie
laurieboshell2004,
I knew about the "Signing Party" and the fact that some of the signatures disappeared
with case changes during the years leading up to the SE/30, but the fact that there were
different manufacturers for the same case (SE/30) I did not know about.
I'm still not sure if this guy is pulling my leg.
Keith,
I wrote to the seller and wished him luck even getting $10k for it.
I went online and researched the GEM Software and you can
still get Versions 1.1 through 3.1 for download.
New and Sealed V1.0...I figure between $300.00 to $550.00?
Steven
100k seems excessive!
Funny to see this same guy selling "Kool Aid" drink packets for like $7.50
Looking to retire I think...
Smells like BS to me. Ask him how he knows.
Side note: it's interesting to observe that the prices for Apple II systems when I was buying them to write my book about 5-6 years ago were x and now I see that in most cases they're 2x and some times 3x.
David,
I cannot disagree with you.
I have been steadily watching prices rise
for the last two years.
The thing is, it is on units that are
extremely plentiful and in no way rare.
Speaking of which; here are the high prices of the day:
Apple IIc:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Computers-Tablets-Networking/58058/i.html?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSRCHX%3ASRCH%7CSTRK%3AMEFSRCHX%3ASRCH&_from=R40&_nkw=Apple+IIc&LH_PrefLoc=1&_sop=16
Apple IIe:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Computers-Tablets-Networking/58058/i.html?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSRCHX%3ASRCH%7CSTRK%3AMEFSRCHX%3ASRCH&_from=R40&_nkw=Apple+IIe&LH_PrefLoc=1&_sop=16
Apple IIgs:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Computers-Tablets-Networking/58058/i.html?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSRCHX%3ASRCH%7CSTRK%3AMEFSRCHX%3ASRCH&_from=R40&_nkw=Apple+IIgs&LH_PrefLoc=1&_sop=16
This is the kind of stuff that sends the hair sticking up
on the back of my neck. lol
Oh...one more for the road:
Somewhere on the list of IIc units is a $500.00 MB.
This board was found by the seller in his warehouse.
From the pictures you cannot tell if it is used, or new.
He has no proof that it is new, but he is selling it as new.
Good Evening All,
Steven
Many things on ebay are being sold as new. Especially standard PC HDDs - in reality they have been "refurbished" by running an erase and zero program and (sometimes) have their S.M.A.R.T data either checked or reset. When reset, the POH count goes to zero and the reallocated sectors count is also normalized to zero. Basically all the diagnostic history is cleared.
None of that changes the fact the drive has many hours of usage and wear and tear on its moving parts. These drives often run slower than genuine NIB drives because the head has to seek all over a used disk because of accumulated defects which cause spare sectors to be utilized. That's normal operation for a disk throughout the course of its life - sector goes bad, it remaps one from spares. Which are located at the end of the disk typically. This remapping can occur as the disk used over time, or during a user-initiated diagnostic test.
Some sellers are ignorant of this and source "refurbed" HDDs from a "factory" in China that does just what I described. Thus they are NEW TO THE SELLER. And therefore NEW TO YOU. Bullshit!
Other sellers do this themselves and made a side business out of it. They remove and recycle laptop hard drives and sell them as brand new. Some less sophisticated sellers can't or don't reset the S.M.A.R.T. data. But Bullshit all the same!
Sometimes you can pull the truth from an owner by asking if it is genuinely new and un-used and straight from the oem factory, like Samsung or WD. If they hesitate or say no or beat around the bush saying they got it from a supplier then you're taking a big chance it's a previously used drive.
So when you do get it, inspect it, check the smart data. And run a performance check noting any points in the downward sloping graph that are out of order. These down spikes indicate the disk is seeking remapped sectors. Not bad in and of itself. But that's not what you paid for.
At the end of the day just be sure you get what you paid for!
You just have to read the Description:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291768282540?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Remarkable. LOL
Steven
Hello Steven,
the text is one side of the story.....
You probably remember the big storage haul of that f....g shed about 3 or 4 years ago ?
It went away for about 11.000 bucks......
That storage was crapped with about 10 palettes of computers from school auction sales....
3 palettes of IIe......
2 palettes of IIGS....
2 palettes of macs.....
bunches of drives with cut off cables......
it was topic in this thread....
and of course: the famous yellow painted wood table !
do you recognize "the famous yellow table" ????
of course it was part if the "furniture" in the shed...
It appeared in every auction when drives have been sold single .....
in sale of every IIGS and also at every single sale of each single IIe....
The resellers dad must have been a amazing person and one of the first pilgrim fathers,
"who crafted by himself" that famous yellow painted wood table - a unique piece
of the Pennsylvanian history.... maybe the first table ever used for thanksgiving meal ???
LOL
speedyG
I know how to make homemade alka seltzer.
Should I start selling it at near retail prices when I get the ingredients at a fraction of the cost?
Here are my picks for today (so far):
1. The $850.00 IIe:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201589073214?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
2. The (wait for it...)$12,000.00 Mac SE/30:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121994008251?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I informed this person that he/she should hide because the folks
from th Happy Home were looking to place him/her in an "I Love Me" jacket.
Steven
Hi guys,
what would be your offer for this:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/1978-Early-Apple-II-Computer-Not-IIe-or-Serial-A2S1-13-131-No-Reserve-/262444761995?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE
Not a whole helluva'lot. Since I have several //e consoles, I would only buy it for spare parts, and thus only pay like 50 bucks or so.
That not a IIe .... it II Rev.02 ....
It keeps coming Down... It started over $2,000.00...
MarkO
And ALL Serial Numbers and the Date Code look Correct.. It does have a Crack on the Power Light....
MarkO
6502Enhanced and All,
From what I am seeing, the price is pretty close to the ball park.
Am I wrong?
Steven
Hi Steven,
I think so ...
Greetings,
Lars
Good Evening All,
This is the one I call:
"Where's The Beef?"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231955743075?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
$500.00 for everything...but the computer!
Steven
Not so laughable now:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WORKING-APPLE-II-VERY-RARE-REVISION-2-UNIQUE-SET-MUSEUM-QUALITY-/172206493168?hash=item28184e8df0:g:jTsAAOSwcOFWbm--
Great stuff to read! Let us hear more stories!
I bounced off that wall some number of years ago. I have all the major pieces. Everything necessary (and more) to have a comprehensive and extraordinary experience in the realm of Apple II computing.
Nowadays I spend time occasionally filling in small tiny gaps by sniping "improperly" priced or ridiculously cheap items at a leisurely pace.
For me it isn't always about collecting. I'm glad to have passed through that phase and no longer need to do it. It's now about reliving the good times of days gone by. And archiving preserving material. Most all my hardware is considered as keepsakes at this point. Come to think of it - it has always been that way.
The millennial catchphrase "Because Apple" means little to me. Previous famous owners are just figments created in the head to drive up prices. Serial numbers and date codes get in the way. All they do is add tedium and frustration. Serial and revision numbers are useful only to the point of indicating functionality in a software version or hardware modification. Example: Version 2.0 does, version 1.0 does not.
Having the right equipment is far more important to the Apple II experience than 100% period correctness.
I suppose I was fortunate because I got a lot of the II stuff early on during ebay's baby years. When this stuff was being dumped by people getting into the internet. When schools were getting rid of things.. And I kept my original stuff from when I was a kid in grade school too.
The only thing I'm *still* undecided on is getting rid of all the Apple /// material. During the endgame (hoarding), it was all duplicates and Apple /// material. Aimless accumulation. And someday I'll finish the Apple /// purge and disposal.
Adding to The Point of Diminishing Returns ...
Maybe this actually should have it's own thread since it only boarders on "THIS is laughable", but as Keatah points out,
many of us collect this stuff way beyond the point of actual need. I guess that qualifies as hoarding, to which I must
confess I am guilty of. However, some things actually pay off over time. One thing that comes to mind is a Mountain
Hardware expansion box I bought a couple of years back. SpeedyG spent a lot of time archiving the box, card, schematics
etc detailing it to a point of near replicateable quality, yet I was able to find the missing card posted on eBay that I
was able to buy at a reasonable price that put the overall cost of the entire system relatively low. (under $250) This also
saved me a ton of time and troubleshooting of building the card -plus it's nice to have an original. (BTW Speedy, if you
need any info on that, I can make it happen. I'm tempted to desolder the components so we can archive a perfect board trace)
I did a lot of prototyping back in the 1980's and still have the equipment in service.
At some point though, I have to go through all the cards, computers, parts, etc and decide what to keep and what to sell.
Having 8 different EPROM burning cards, a dozen different 80 column cards, dozens of different memory cards, and multiples
of each (just to get started) doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless I plan to stock a chain of museums.
macnoyd,
The same with my Expansion Chassis.
Keatah and Speedy got mine running.
That's why there's a whole thread devoted to it.
All the steps taken to bring it to life.
Everyone,
I need opinions on this Motherboard.
It has no Four Digit Serial Number:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121993040754?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Do you think it's worth bidding on?
Steven
Steven,
The Motherboard is listed at a low price at the moment, so I'd say "sure", but to a point.
The seller indicates the ROMS were from the factory, but I can tell you with certainty that
these EPROMS were added by someone other than Apple. Apple would have never done this.
2732 Eproms weren't available at the time this computer was made and they were really high
priced when they were initially released.
I can't make out the version of the motherboard, but (to me) it looks to be Rev 3.
Good luck if you bid.
On picture nr.5 is the board rev.
Rev. 4 board 820-0001-04 silkscreened under the CPU, somethimes Rev.
04 is visible silkscreened on the board, used from ca. 7934 to 8030,
16/16/16 memory select blocks are soldered to the board, used on Apple
II and IIplus.
6502Enhanced,
I do know what the MB was used in.
I know about the 16k Blocks.
My concerns are:
1. No Serial Number (The White Rectangle looks like it has been painted).
2. EPROMs instead of ROMs
Steven
Another $600.00 IIc:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231958205626?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
And an added Bonus!
A $10k Oregon Trail Disk:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121999099596?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Steven
How about a //e, Disk ][ labelled "Drive 2", and a monitor, all crusty-looking, sold "as-is for parts" for almost $600?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-IIe-Computer-Disk-II-Drive-2-A2M003-A2M2010-As-Is-For-Parts-/172219479956?hash=item281914b794:g:WzwAAOSwwE5WWJxx
ETA: And eBay calls it the "best offer available"!!
And seller says "I am not high tech." Yeah, just high priced.
Ask if you can have his/her patio furniture as part of the $600 deal.
Or better yet, check out this person's other offers. Instead of wasting $600 on this junk, you could buy your wife a nice present or two. 
Just a salute to our Vets on this Memorial Day.
Steven
Hear, hear!!
As a Canadian, I appreciate all of the things our American friends do to help keep us all safe.
Salute!
How about this? The listing is "Vintage Apple IIe - circa 1980s - Still runs, has software", but the only picture is a fuzzy stock picture of a ][+. And with zero bids so far, the listed price is $2000!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Apple-IIe-circa-1980s-Still-runs-has-software/301968693583?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D36895%26meid%3Dd4d91536f8874441b43399c0b83c1045%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D231959784422
AU$15,000 for a boxed Apple TAM: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Apple-Twentieth-Anniversary-Macintosh-MINT-in-BOX-RARE-for-COLLECTOR-/191873475724?hash=item2cac8ce48c:g:rgQAAOSwSgJXOUGe
According to a seller this isn't such a bad deal... but I can't fathom spending that much money on vintage hardware. Might just be me though?
Got that seller PO'ed at me, too! They sure don't like it when you tell them what
it's really worth or what price they actually trade hands at. Woot!!
10 disks for 750,0 €
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Apple-Floppy-Disk-II-10er-Pack-Originalverpackt-/191886478511?hash=item2cad534caf:g:mrkAAOSwepJXTw0d
May not be that crazy after all. Some 3 years ago I sold a box for $499.00 to a collectard looking to augment an in-box Disk II.
Oh, HOW can Retrofloppy afford to sell disks that are, for all intents and purposes, identical, for 2.1 percent of that?!
I see a Box. That's all.
Are the disks in the box? lol
Speaking of "What's in the box?",
Take a look at this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131836891426?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
AE never said anything about a 256Meg Card, did they? lol
Steven
Another $2200 //e
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Apple-IIe-Computer-Accessories-/162092252274?hash=item25bd737c72:g:GhkAAOSwLnBXUeSE
Yep.
I looked at that IIe.
Nice, but not $2k worth.
It's like I've been saying; the IIe is The Apple II Workhorse
and is plentiful.
Why do these folks think it's worth so much?
Steven
Because it's ***RARE!!!!!!**** and ~~~~ V I N T A G E !!!11!!!! ~~~~
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