No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

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A few weeks back in the "THIS is Laughable!" thread, georgel brought our attention to:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DS1216E-Manu-DALLAS-Package-DIP-SmartWatch-RAM-16K-66K-ROMRAM-/191046639935
and
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DS1216E-Manu-DALLAS-Encapsulation-DIP-SmartWatch-RAM-16K-66K16K-66KROMRAM-/131169025116

I went to the fist one on that list and offered them $12 for two. They arrived about a week ago and I installed them and tested them today.

They work perfectly. Nice cheap No Slot Clocks 100% compatible with ProDos.

Did anyone else give them a try?

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

I am one of the guys who got caught up paying more than I should have. I was confused with the different models of this chip and I could not figure out those subtle differences.

In any case, the one who sold me this gave me a "driver CD" and the first time I attempted to install it, it failed, but not the second time.

The advantage of the no slot clock in my opinion is the compatibility, as it works well with Proterm and Catalyst.

The disadvantage is that it has a non-replaceable battery.

I also have a Practical Peripherals Proclock and the thing works, but I don't like the compatibility with Proterm and Catalyst.

The only other clock that I do not have experience with is the one that comes with the Apple iigs.

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

sorry for the newb question, but what exactly can you do with this no slot clock on the iic? application? for that cheap price i may buy one for my unit.

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

A No-Slot Clock has a clock and calendar function (with battery) in a pass-through DIP package. The software allows you to modify Pro-DOS8 (and actually there's software for IBM DOS too) so that all of your data saving onto a memory medium (floppy disk, harddrive, CF card) are time-date stamped. Additionally you can access either the IC chips or the recorded ProDOS8s time/date information with software that you write. I have used these with Apple IIe's, //c's, and //c+'s.

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

A clock on your computer is cool. You get to see the time directly on your screen depending on which program you use.

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

UltimateApple2/ReactiveMicro will soon offer a NSC with a replaceable coin cell battery that has a lower profile than the original NSC.

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

sfahey wrote:

UltimateApple2/ReactiveMicro will soon offer a NSC with a replaceable coin cell battery that has a lower profile than the original NSC.

sfahey, How do you know this?

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

Carlos,

Like Bo Knows Football...
Sean knows ReactiveMicro.

Steven Smile

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

gsmcten wrote:

Carlos,

Like Bo Knows Football...
Sean knows ReactiveMicro.

Steven Smile

And Carlos knows now that Sean knows ReactiveMicro Like Bo Knows Football, and that he also asked Sean why he knows that ReactiveMicro will soon offer a NSC with a replaceable coin cell battery that has a lower profile than the original NSC, not how well Sean knows ReactiveMicro.

And why am I talking about myself in the third person?

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

insanitor wrote:
sfahey wrote:

UltimateApple2/ReactiveMicro will soon offer a NSC with a replaceable coin cell battery that has a lower profile than the original NSC.

sfahey, How do you know this?

It's a Secret.. Now we have to Kill-You...

MarkO

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

MarkO wrote:
insanitor wrote:
sfahey wrote:

UltimateApple2/ReactiveMicro will soon offer a NSC with a replaceable coin cell battery that has a lower profile than the original NSC.

sfahey, How do you know this?

It's a Secret.. Now we have to Kill-You...

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YOU CANNOT KILL WHAT IS ALREADY DEAD! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....!!!!!

You want a REAL SECRET? DS1216E is ...

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

I know because I am A2Central.

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

BTW if anyone needs any of the No Slot Clock manuals (from two different companies), I made clean PDF's of them, you can PM me and will email them to you. If anyone needs the No Slot Clock ProDOS 8 driver & utility software, PM me and I'll send you a floppy for $3, postage included within the USA.

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

insanitor wrote:
MarkO wrote:
insanitor wrote:
sfahey wrote:

UltimateApple2/ReactiveMicro will soon offer a NSC with a replaceable coin cell battery that has a lower profile than the original NSC.

sfahey, How do you know this?

It's a Secret.. Now we have to Kill-You...

MarkO

YOU CANNOT KILL WHAT IS ALREADY DEAD! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....!!!!!

You want a REAL SECRET? DS1216E is ...

yes... Yes.... YES......

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

I will add my thanks as well. I ordered up one of these a few minutes ago.

I have located a complete Apple IIc with printer and monitor, all the fix-ins so to speak. I pick it up in Santa Barbara this Saturday 8/8/15. The IIc was my first computer. So, now I'm going back to my AppleSoft Basic(s) roots. My wife thinks I'm crazy. While she may be right ... I'm looking forward to dabbling again. Anyone have suggestions as to acquiring any of the old magazines, digital or real that illustrated sample programing? - Thank you for your time, and your thoughts. - Gary

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

Hi, does anyone have fitting instructions for one of these please? Ive ordered one and its arrived... no idea how to fit or patch prodos/set the time Smile

thanks in advance!

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

These are 28 pin sockets. Is there a converter or hack to use them in a II+ motherboard?

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

I looked at the pictures on ebay...the date code seems to be 9440D3.
If that means the 40th week of 1994 then the built in lithium
battery has out-lived its 10 year life.
Does anyone have further info?

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

This is the date code of the chip only, while they could have used it many years later when assembling the whole module...Anyway there must be a way to replace the battery and/or connect an external one. I haven't bought such module for experiments yet since I don't see real need in using RTC with //e's. Theoretically it can be connected to apple ][(+) with proper adapter board. I've never owned original Apple ][, I have only clones that unlike Apples do have EPROM address and data buses in regular order...

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

@iainjh

Documentation is here:

No Slot Clock Documentation

and some utility disks are here:

No Slot Clock Disk Images

But which goes with that particular clock I do not know. Investigate and let us know Smile

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

I don't like this reseller and I avoid every listing that he lists (luckily his photos are easily distinguishable and thus his listings ignorable) but here he goes... http://www.ebay.com/itm/No-Slot-Clock-for-Apple-IIe-IIc-BRAND-NEW-Adds-Time-Date-Functions-/151790568060

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

Georgel,

You know that's DrKen, right?

Steven Smile

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

Thank you, will do! Smile

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

In life you get what you pay for. All I can say is that my NCS is ultra low profile and you can actually change the battery (as Sean mentioned) unlike the throw-a-ways that you get on ebay..that you will need to repurchase and repurchase and repurchase with old semi-dead batteries which cant be changed out.

Even though its sold at www.ultimateapple2.com, its our Ultimate-Micro branded product....and will bear our UM logo Smile By both Anthony and Henry.

Come check out the 2store for this and other exciting products that we make and sell.

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Re: No Slot Clocks for $6 - Thx to Georgel

amart79196 wrote:

In life you get what you pay for. All I can say is that my NCS is ultra low profile and you can actually change the battery (as Sean mentioned) unlike the throw-a-ways that you get on ebay..that you will need to repurchase and repurchase and repurchase with old semi-dead batteries which cant be changed out.

Even though its sold at www.ultimateapple2.com, its our Ultimate-Micro branded product....and will bear our UM logo Smile By both Anthony and Henry.

Come check out the 2store for this and other exciting products that we make and sell.

Why did you do this to me? Sad