ORCA\C

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Is there an ORCA\C environment outside of Prizm akin to the GSoft BASIC editor? I seem to remember using a shell-like environment but I can't find reference to it anywhere.

Sorry for the vagueness of the question.

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Re: ORCA\C

Hello bushnrvn,
you are correct in the memory....
the company ORCA distributed in the mid 80´s 4 different programing development Systems
( each having the editor, the compiler and the debugger )
the four Systems have been:
Orca Pascal
Orca C
Orca Basic
Orca Macro Assembler
They have been distributed on 3,5 " Disks
and every system had a heck of a thick manual book.
But at the other hand:
a lot of programmers in those days have been working with the UCSD environment using that editor....
and another bunch of programmers of that days have been using the GPLE editor from the Beagle Bros....
maybe it would be usefull to spot out the target of the question a bit more precise....
maybe this info´s give a kick to get closer to the target...
In Fact:
Not all manuals from ORCA have been scanned yet - like the one from GPLE by Beagle Bros -
or the manual from UCSD Pascal containing the description of their editor....
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Re: ORCA\C

just another update: i have the Orca Pascal System and the Orca Macro assembler system ....
and it´s planned to make disk images and pdf-files from the manuals in the next year and upload them to asimov....

similar is valid to the Aztec C system and several other rare compiler systems
like PL1, LISP, MuLISP, Prolog, several variations of Basic and debugger systems....
that are not availiable yet at asimov

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Re: ORCA\C

Bushnrvn:

http://store.syndicomm.com/

Sheppy has had Orca C for sale a long time.

Check it out.

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Re: ORCA\C

Is t it run by Sheppy? The last time I ordered something it was a mess.

I'd buy most of the stuff on that site if I had confidence that it wouldn't take months to have it delivered.

Of course, YMMV, that was just my experience with Syndicomm.

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Re: ORCA\C

Another old post that I am late to the game with, never the less, I say something now...

As stated by gsmcten, Support Syndicomm! ORCA is a fantastic development environment for the Apple II/IIgs and worth every penny. Tony Diaz is managing it currently, and he can be very helpful.

Yes, the full-screen editor accessible from the ORCA shell supports all of the languages just like the one in PRIZM. The manual that comes with any of the ORCAs covers how to do this, although the one that comes with ORCA/M is more Shell oriented than the rest. In order to disable PRIZM, all you have to do is edit the LOGIN file and remove or comment the line that starts it. Then, whenever you launch ORCA, (whether from Finder or booting directly in), you will go straight to the full-screen Shell.

There is also a section in the manual that covers how to boot GS/OS directly into the Shell environment rather than Finder. The Shell is in many ways more powerful than Finder, and takes only a fraction of the RAM. So if you have a GS with only 1 or 2 MB of RAM, you will probably want to do this. Just FYI, unlike modern day Macs, Finder is not really necessary to run GS/OS software, so even when not programming, the ORCA shell is a suitable permanent alternative provided that you are comfortable with a CLI. The only exception is that NDAs (Desk Accessories) are not immediately accessible. (They are still there though, and show up in applications that handle them correctly.)

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Re: ORCA\C

This post is a year old now, but GS.JUICED has all the software in one package (OPUS II) for only $25-40

https://juiced.gs/2015/09/byte-works-opus/

Ken Gagne of GS Juiced and Mike Westerfield are also both active on the Apple II Enthusiasts Page on Facebook.

(You don't have to buy it at Syndicomm anymore)