Original Apple 1 # 01-0073 for sale May 20

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Hi there, original Apple-1 serial #01-0073 for sale May 20 Auction Team Breker :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTgyll6IqJY

http://www.auction-team.de/newsletter/NL_31_en.pdf

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Giuliano

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Re: Original Apple 1 # 01-0073 for sale May 20

I noticed this one was coming up for sale. It is listed in Mike Willegal's Apple 1 registry but there it is pictured in a 19" rack case and a different keyboard.

Anybody know what happened to the case and original keyboard?

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Re: Original Apple 1 # 01-0073 for sale May 20

I'm just amazed how many Views Breker gets on YouTube.

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Re: Original Apple 1 # 01-0073 for sale May 20

Moonferret wrote:

I noticed this one was coming up for sale. It is listed in Mike Willegal's Apple 1 registry but there it is pictured in a 19" rack case and a different keyboard.

Anybody know what happened to the case and original keyboard?

the original case, keyboard and cassette drive is also coming with the sale. The keyboard was flacky; the cassette drive was non working and the case was "nice" but the powersupply wasnt trustworthy anymore. So this has been replaced to make it work but it is still included in the auction.

The nice thing with this particular A1 is that every single chip and cap is date correct and authentic - nothing has been replaced.

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Re: Original Apple 1 # 01-0073 for sale May 20

Rudi,

Why did it have the extra cap originally attached to the 5300uf? What was the ESR on the caps? Were the caps reformed? What was all the rework on the back for? Did they try to fix the keyboard and supply?

Actually have a lot of questions, I was originally asked to work on this system and declined for various reasons.

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Corey

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Re: Original Apple 1 # 01-0073 for sale May 20

Sold today in Germany for only $ 125,000 about 110.000 Euro

http://www.breker.com/images/Times_Square_APPLE_1_AUCTION.jpg

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Re: Original Apple 1 # 01-0073 for sale May 20

Plus the buyers preminum and vat which is about 44% on topic that.

It wasn't a great condition board and didn't have a complete set of accessories from 1976.

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Re: Original Apple 1 # 01-0073 for sale May 20

There was a story on national TV ABC network about a board today that claimed it sold for $350,000, was wired by Steve Jobs.
Is tius the same A1?

Mitch

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Re: Original Apple 1 # 01-0073 for sale May 20

Lots of BS on the news stories about Apple-1 that have been for sale.

This unit was not wired by Steve Jobs. This was an NTI unit so most likely it was wave soldered by NTI, chips were inserted by either Dan Kottke or Patty Jobs, and the jumpers soldered by Don Kottke or the store it was sold from. Maybe if it was an early byte shop order unit Steve Jobs might have soldered the jumpers since it was all hands on deck to get the 50 units final assembly done and tested in 30 days. All Apple-1 production units were waver soldered, neither Steve Jobs or Steve Wozniak hand soldered them.

I read a story that talked about the "malaise in the collectibles" market because it only went for 350k. This was a modified Apple-1 with no pictures of the condition of the backside. You can't compare to the Henry Ford unit, which they did, which was unmolested and near perfect.

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Re: Original Apple 1 # 01-0073 for sale May 20

IMHO, no matter what the condition, the Henry Ford Museum overpaid, by a large amount. Just a few years ago, a high price on an Apple 1, was $50,000. Back then, condition didn't matter very much, but the thought by experts is that only 30 survived. We now know that the number 30 was a very incorrect estimate.

Christies just sold another unit for $355,000, so maybe that is going to be the approximate value for a while. One thing that is hurting the Apple 1 market is that the supply of known Apple 1's keeps growing, as they just keep coming out of the woodwork. I'm sure that there is a very limited number of collectors and institutions that are both interested and can afford 5 figure investiments. In the end, it's all about supply and demand.

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Mike Willegal

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Re: Original Apple 1 # 01-0073 for sale May 20

I don't know if there are so many still coming out of the woodwork, that seems to have slowed.

Before the Henry Ford, there was the two that sold at Breker for over 600k. Both weren't in as good condition as the HF one, but were in better condition (board level, not original chip level) than the ones that sold in the 300 to 500k range. The 50k Apple-1 at auction disappeared after Steve Jobs died. The only post Steve Jobs Apple-1 that sold for less than 100k at auction was the Huston Brothers #2, which had a board fire (I have very hi-res pics of the carbon damage) and had major chunks take out of the power supply traces on the back.

I would have thought there were a limited number of collectors and institutions except lately I've been getting into other types of high price collectibles and it's amazing to me how many 500k Complication Watches are sold every year that will never be worn on a wrist and only put on display. So when you get into the big money, I think there is more of it out there than we think. Not all Bill Gates/Jeff Bezos kind of money there are many people worth 100m to 600m who can afford to invest in this kind of stuff and they do.

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Corey