Reading .bin files

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tkh
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I have a question that seems to be basic to you guys but for some reason I am not able to find the answer anywhere.
The question is: How do we read .bin file on Apple II?

I know that .bin files are binary images on any platform. I can easily use it on Linux, but I don't even know how it works on Apple II.
The files in the discussion are "supposed to be" disk images inside a zip archive that I downloaded off the Internet.

Let's say that I downloaded the "disk image" of Oregon trail. There are two disks for this program. After I extracted the file, I was left with two .bin files.
I know that ADTPro don't read .bin files. I tried Apple Commander to find out anything out of these images and found nothing.
None of the program that I have on my computer work with this file.

What should I do with these files?

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Re: Reading .bin files

hello tkh,

nice question and i believe it´s very long time ago anotherone issued similar question.

First in general the .bin mark can be misleading .... there are several standards with .bin files:

Files related to assembler and resulting with true binary code after assembling
like those resulting from a readout from eprom.
This images must be treated with assembler tools ( disassembler ),
( like inside of Merlin, Sweet16 or other similar programs ) if you want to view the code,
if you only want to view the content at the PC there are several freeware tools that drive
hardware capable to program eproms like EPROM45.exe which is for example used with the Willem Programmer
( and there are as far to my knowledge also newer versions availiable )
if you just want to view the contents at Apple II computers without disassembling the code you also can
view such files with sectorview-mode or file-view-modes of several diskutilities like CopyII-plus or locksmith....

and alternating the .bin files resulting from compression of disk images.
The files containing disk- or ISO-images from CD´s can be handles with
WIN-Image, and ISO-Buster at PC.

The .BIN standards are partially explained at Wikipedia.

sincerely speedyG

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Re: Reading .bin files

tkh wrote:

What should I do with these files?

As Speedy says - we don't actually know what they are yet. Can you point us to the .zip you downloaded?

tkh
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Re: Reading .bin files

david__schmidt wrote:

As Speedy says - we don't actually know what they are yet. Can you point us to the .zip you downloaded?

This is the one:
http://www.freeinfosociety.com/media.php?id=714

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Re: Reading .bin files

There are Two Disk Images, of 143,360 bytes, that would indicate a Apple 5.25" Disk Image..

I would rename them to Otrail_1.DSK, or Otrail_1.DO, since they are most likely a DOS 3.3 Image..

Here is a Screen Shot of the First Disk, renamed to Otrail_1.DSK and Booted in Apple Win v1.23.00..

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Re: Reading .bin files

So it seems someone had "a special kind of humor" or just didn´t know about correct naming conventions
after transferring the images with ADT from Disk to file .......
and it´s not the first time such thing happens...
because even the ad for download issues wrong information about content
and displays the file to be of "eprom" typ in category ??? ....lol
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Re: Reading .bin files

IT WORKED!

Thank you for the help guys!
Now I am able to play Oregon Trail!!! Big smile

Geez... They surely made things hard, huh...