how to make a 3rd gen+ ipod work under Mac OS 9

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yes, this is in the right place, as I am discussing how to beat your software into submission.

ok, so it's not really a hack, but more of a "unthought of way to play with existing software"

ok, so this is what you do:

1. go buy a copy of Connetix Virtual PC 6, which is no longer being made, so you need to get it off ebay or somewhere else.

2. buy a copy of Windows 2000 or XP (home OR pro, doesnt make any diff.), again, ebay is your best bet.

3. install virtual PC.

4. install 2000/XP like this:
-when running PC setup assistant, choose 'create PC manually', the option in the middle.
-on the next page, click 'install an operating system onto an empty PC', the option at the top.
- on the next page, click either windows XP or windows 2000, depending on which OS you bought.
-on the next page, choose how much ram you want the guest OS to have. I have 512 total system ram, so I set the slider to 416, the max virtual PC would allow for stable operation. but you could probibly get away with 256. 128 (the default) would be pushing it, and anything less would be murder. remeber, this is a microsoft OS you are installing, not Cabrio, or some other low ram programme.
-on the next page, choose no for the undo drivers.
-on the next page, give the virtual PC a name. I just put the name of the OS.
-on the next page, click 'create'.

5. click the settings button BEFORE clicking "start up".

6. on the settings page, click networking, and choose "virtual switch". this, for some reason, has worked better for me. your milage may varry.

7. choose USB from the settings list, and check the entry for iPod (sorry firewire afficondos, I am one too, but it wont work here. I tried.)

8. insert the windows disc in the disc drive, and wait for it to mount on your desktop.

9. click start up, and wait for the virtual OS to boot. when it says "press any key to boot from CD", do it.

10. follow the directions to install windows. when it asks how you want to format, choose "fat32" or "fat32 (quick)". I have had better luck with it under fat32, but again, your milage may varry. also, remember that because this is an emulation, it WILL be slower, and thus it will take longer to install.

11. when the OS is done installing (2 hours for me), and the OS is fully booted to the desktop, create a new network connection (start>control panels>network connections), and make sure you choose the option for the connection that is always on (I dont know which option it is).

note: you may get a found new hardware bubble in the system tray, this is for the iPod. let it install the drivers, which will take a good 2-5 minutes.

12. with the net connection created, go to apple's site, and download (and install, duh) itunes.

13. open iTunes, and wait a few minutes. you should find an entry for "iPod" in your sources list.

14. enjoy the new longevity of OS 9!!

why did I write all that? because I am an OS 9 afficondo/holdout, and I know I am not the only one out there. if you have a machine that wont run OS X, or if you dont have X (yet), then this is for you.

enjoy!! -digital Wink

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Seems like an awful lot of work

A used iMac (5 flavors, indigo, ruby, sage, etc.) runs about $50-$75, with built-in FireWire. And a used copy of Jaguar is about $20 on eBay (right time, right place, etc.).

In the time and money you'd spend getting Virtual PC and (Win2K or WinXP) running on an 200 MHz OS9 Mac ... not to mention the even slower performance under VPC ...

I think I'd rather go the OS X route, myself.

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Re: how to make a 3rd gen+ ipod work under Mac OS 9

iamdigitalman wrote:

why did I write all that? because I am an OS 9 afficondo/holdout, and I know I am not the only one out there. if you have a machine that wont run OS X, or if you dont have X (yet), then this is for you.

So... what you're saying is that to a dedicated OS 9 user OS X is just so awful that using Windows 2000 (in an emulator, no less) is preferable to it?

Perhaps Microsoft should run a "Switch" commercial of its own. Clearly they need to raise awareness in the fact that they offer an inexpensive and widely available alternative to OS X, which can be easily purchased in any neighborhood computer store for a fraction of the price of a comparable Macintosh.

--Peace

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Re: how to make a 3rd gen+ ipod work under Mac OS 9

Eudimorphodon wrote:
iamdigitalman wrote:

why did I write all that? because I am an OS 9 afficondo/holdout, and I know I am not the only one out there. if you have a machine that wont run OS X, or if you dont have X (yet), then this is for you.

So... what you're saying is that to a dedicated OS 9 user OS X is just so awful that using Windows 2000 (in an emulator, no less) is preferable to it?

Perhaps Microsoft should run a "Switch" commercial of its own. Clearly they need to raise awareness in the fact that they offer an inexpensive and widely available alternative to OS X, which can be easily purchased in any neighborhood computer store for a fraction of the price of a comparable Macintosh.

--Peace

that's not what I was saying. I just happened to have the software on hand, and I dont have a working copy of X yet, soon though. so if people are in the same boat as me, they can use this (temporarily).

that plus when i got my 'pod, it was windows format, and I already started to manage the songs on my mom's laptop, and I would have to back them up somewhere and format the pod for use on a mac.

got it? good.

-digital Wink

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Sounds like a good idea.

Sounds like a good idea.

I was searching for an iPod shuffle transfer program for OS9 and I came across a python script that does it but only for OSX and windows so I modified the python script for OS9 and using MacPython for OS9 I made an applet (program) and am now able to transfer music files to the iPod shuffle using OS9.

If anyone wants to try it out just send me a message.

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Heres the iPod shuffle py

Heres the iPod shuffle python howto for OSX.

http://shuffle-db.sourceforge.net/mac_manual/index.html

My changes enable it for OS9.

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This whole thing sounds like

This whole thing sounds like giving in to one evil to bypass another. We need to think which is the bigger evil, windows or os x. (For my opinion, see my quote!)

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