The volume that won't mount

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I have a 120G hard drive that I pulled from my Bondi iMac and I am putting into Connie. The volume is formatted as Mac OS Extended (HFS+) and is in good working order when last used in my Bondi (before logic board died...).

This card is currently hooked to my Tempo Trio and is System Profiler, the device shoews as well as the volume name, but it does not mount.

When I pull up Disk Setup, I can see the device, but the command to mount the volume returns the message "Unable to mount the volume(s)".

What am I doing wrong and how can I fix this?

TIA
--DDTM

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Does Drive Setup say that the

Does Drive Setup say that the disk can be initialized? There was something about drives that are hooked up to PCI ATA controllers must first be formatted through the controller before they will mount, although, I've not found that to be the case, but it might be a problem with legacy Macs. I think I may have encountered that problem using a Tempo 66 in my 9600. I'm guessing you've got a system and data on the drive you want to use in the 8600, so you don't want to simply reformat, in which case you'll have to transfer it all off onto CD's or something and put it all back on after you reformat.

All drives used in legacy Macs must be formatted only with OS 9's Drive Setup--not OS X's Disk Utility--even if you're going to install X with XPostFacto.

(I use the term legacy to refer to pre-G3, which is what I assume most people mean with that term. "Old World Macs" refers to the same thing? I've always wondered if there is a general agreement on the use of these terms. Same question about OS 9--a lot of people are now calling it Classic, even when it's used solely as the boot system, which has the potential to cause confusions. I'm expecting OS 10.6 Snow Leopard may create a whole new confusion with these types of terms since it will be the new, completely non-PPC age and "legacy" may start to swallow G3's, G4's, and G5's as well. I think the Beige G3 could fall within "legacy" these days since it also has the Drive Setup formatting requirement, I believe.)

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Re: Does Drive Setup say that the

Hawaii Cruiser wrote:

Does Drive Setup say that the disk can be initialed?

Yes, it does.

Hawaii Cruiser wrote:

There was something about drives hooked up to PCI ATA controllers must first be formatted through the controller before they will mount, although, I've not found that to be the case, but it might be a problem with legacy Macs.

If I throw this thing into my Yosemite, I should be okay then - right?

Hawaii Cruiser wrote:

I think I may have encountered that problem using a Tempo 66 in my 9600. I'm guessing you've got a system and data on the drive you want to use in the 8600, so you don't want to simply reformat, in which case you'll have to transfer it all off onto CD's or something and put it all back on after you reformat.

Yep - data about 40G worth. Might have a solid 9.2.2 install on there as well IIRC.

Hawaii Cruiser wrote:

All drives used in legacy Macs must be formatted only with OS 9's Drive Setup--not OS X's Disk Utility--even if you're going to install X with XPostFacto.

I believe this was - can't recall since it was in my Bondi when it was dual booting with two internal hard drives and then later when the system was just Classic (9 - Wink ) after I rebuilt it. I do not remember actually setting this thing up with X.

Later today, I will move it to the Yosemite and see if it behaves.

All this is making me love SCSI more and more...

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Yep, get it all off and refor

Yep, get it all off and reformat the drive in Connie, or format a different drive in Connie and then do all the transferring in the Yosemite.

Fast SCSI's the best, ain't it, except when those drives start spinning up and down in a manic fashion. I guess that mostly happens when they're dying out. It became a consistent problem over time with most of the Ultra SCSI drives I used, especially with the larger capacity drives--36GB and above. But SCSI speed is sweeeet when it's all stable.

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I took it over to my Yosemite and it mounted right away. It also appears that I had wiped the drive before I stored it. I subsequently left it there and pulled the 6G out after I moved the OS 9 install over.

Thanks!

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