Commercialism at it's most... confusing?

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If your initial reaction is anything like mine was, your probably a little peeved/confused/scared.

I'd like to hear what my fellow man/woman/fritterer thinks of this type of ridiculous commercialism.

Long story short: Diagnosed with Acid Reflux Disease last week, instructed to take Prilosec for 30 days.

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It's invasive advertising. I

It's invasive advertising. I see that ads will become more difficult to escape (as if they aren't everywhere already)

Two examples from film: In Max Headroom, the family that lives seemingly only to buy "BIG BURGER." It was the only thing on their minds.

Or in The Fifth Element, where McDonalds had whorish supermodels for waitreses, and the food was even more frivolously packaged than it is now.

I think that's what we'll see in the future.

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History repeats itsel . . .

mobilepet wrote:

. . . had whorish supermodels for waitreses, and the food was even more frivolously packaged than it is now.

I think that's what we'll see in the future.

. . . been there . . . done that!

I take it you're not old enough to have been to a real drive-in burger joint?

BTW, jail-bait works MUCH more efficiently!

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Re: Commercialism at it's most... confusing?

LTong wrote:

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If your initial reaction is anything like mine was, your probably a little peeved/confused/scared.

I'd like to hear what my fellow man/woman/fritterer thinks of this type of ridiculous commercialism.

Long story short: Diagnosed with Acid Reflux Disease last week, instructed to take Prilosec for 30 days.

I wanna know when "Acid Reflux disease" became a national health
risk ?
From watching TV you would think it is a major problem. It all seems like a scam to me to sell some new overpriced overdeveloped medicine.

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The product of an unhealthy d

The product of an unhealthy diet is what I'm told.

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The Reflux?

...wasn't The Reflux a Duran Duran song?;D

...and wasn't another of their hits Girls on Film?

I guess it all ties up in a neat little package!

I'd be more concerned if the film came with a package of suppositories.

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Prilosec for Google Ad Words

I'd say that Fuji Film is running out of customers -- so many people are going digital that the makers of film are now forced to give it away.

BTW, this discussion should completely confuse Google ad words just like that early discussion of the Ford Crown Victoria.

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Charmin cross-marketing . . .

. . . campaign? Good one, eeun!

Add in a gift certificate for Taco Bell to go with the film and you'd really be onto something . . . kinda like Coca-Cola marketing a diuretic as a thirst quencher!

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It does not make sense to me...

I can see packaging certain products together, like Roofies and condoms, Reader's Digest and toilet paper, super glue and acetone/super glue remover (I bought that one and thank God, I later that same day glued my whole hand into a fist by accident - I was so glad someone packaged those items together and more so that I bought it - I guess someone figured a dumb-@$$ like me would do something stupid and need it.

But why film and heartburn medicine?

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Drug Commercials in general annoy me to no end. If you need to take medication, you're doctor should know about and prescribe it. Even OTC stuff shouldn't be considered without consulting a doctor first.

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Re: It does not make sense to me...

doug-doug the mighty wrote:

But why film and heartburn medicine?

My guess is that film reminds people of summer vacations and picnics where they will eat foods that cause reflux disease, heartburn, etc. The advertisers want to give you the idea that you could take some little pill and then overindulge during the summer's festivities.

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I agree 250%

Advertisers for drugs (even OTC) are causing a serious problem with people self-medicating or trying to presure their doctors into prescriptions. A good doctor should be informed by a drug rep or some medical journal on what is out there and what the good is. It is just a way for companies to try and side-step the FDA (and if it is a problem, they shold work to make it better/ more efficient, not undermine it), besides, isn't that what drug reps' jobs are? I recognize these drugs have solid benefits for many, but the method of communication is just wrong. My 5 year old and 3 year old both think 'Zoloft' is a cartoon head that walks around feeling sad. We all remember what happened to Joe Camel, don't we.

Personally, I never medicate with the singular exception of a generic allergy sinus capsule two or three times in a given summer season.

Except beer, you can never have too much beer. Beer is good. Beer is therapeutic. Beer is comforting. Beer is tasty. Beer is fun. Beer is good cold. Beer can even be good hot (but only if it is the home-brewed German kind with twigs and $#!t floating around in it and served by buxom barmaids whilst you and you compatriots rable and chorus old songs that now body can understand you slur). Beer is good with anything Irish. Beer is good Australian style (served in a 50 oz oil can backed by a marketing campaign that implies Australian ruggedness when consumed).

Did I mention I like beer?

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Riiiiiggghhhtttt!!!!!!!!!!

doug-doug the mighty wrote:

Advertisers for drugs (even OTC) are causing a serious problem with people self-medicating or trying to presure their doctors into prescriptions. A good doctor should be informed by a drug rep or some medical journal on what is out there and what the good is.

Ahem . . . that's assuming a LOT!

My sister-in-law works for a large medical practice. They have reps coming in about 3 times a week, bribing their way in to see the doctors by bringing in fancy lunches for the (large) office staff . . .

. . .it's assuming the medical journals are any more reliable a/o less the advertiser whor . . . erm . . . sycophants, than the Macintosh (or PC) journals.

. . . it's also assuming Doctors can freakin' read! Those that are actually literate AND good enough to be able to afford the time to stay current . . . rather than cramming in an extra 12 patients for every available hour . . .

jt :Smile

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Re: I agree 250%

doug-doug the mighty wrote:

Advertisers for drugs (even OTC) are causing a serious problem with people self-medicating or trying to presure their doctors into prescriptions.

I'd say the opposite is true. It's the doctors that are the pushers. When my Dad had his heart-attack, he was put on a small mountain of pills by his doctor - and my Dad is one of these old-school folks who believe the doctor is always right and must be working in your best interests.
He didn't know what half these pills were for, and what side-effects and interactions there may be, so to his credit he did start looking them up on the 'net, and when he started to notice side-effects, was able to go and suggest to the doctor that Potion 'A' might be a problem.
Doctors over-medicate, that's been proven in the press, especially to the elderly. Doctors get special deals to promote and prescribe certain drugs, including one big company that just got caught giving out five-figure checks and vacations to doctors to sell their wares.

Self-medicating is increasingly difficult to do, and I believe I should have the right to do so, without the state saying We Know Better Than You and It's for Your Own Good. Doctors and 'experts' briefed by the pharma companies do their PR rounds saying we can't have Kava, or triptophan, or Melatonin (in Canada at least)that can't be regulated by the pharma corps, so they get the gov't to ban it outright. Meanwhile some heart medication they're using up here has been attributed to 70-odd deaths, and the talking heads from the industry say 'we need to use it more carefully', but since it makes them money, you won't see it banned without a big public outcry.

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A good doctor should be informed by a drug rep or some medical journal on what is out there and what the good is.

They get the former all the time, but rarely do the latter. I trust doctors about as much as I trust mechanics (ie - not a hell of a lot). They have the same ability to profit at the ignorance of the masses.

An informed public is the best solution.

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[quote]Doctors over-medicate,

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Doctors over-medicate, that’s been proven in the press, especially to the elderly

One of my grandmothers has alzheimers. She was under a cocktail of meds to help, but she was still pretty out of it most of the time, I'd guess 25% coherency. Got a second doctors opinion, changed her meds/ratios and alot of the alzheimers "effects" started to fade, probably over 50% coherency. That was one case where a doctor tried to treat the cause of illness, not just medicating the symptoms (many of which were casued by interactions and over medication).

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Big Drug

I know first hand about docs perscribing unnecessary medication because the drug companies have there hands in his/her pocket. I was put on a multi-purpose wonder drug when I was in my early teens, at above the adult recommended dose. I couldn't tell you many details because my memory is pretty ghostly from that time, due to the meds.

I'm pretty well convinced our nation's health is largely dependent on the drug companies greed and lack of morals.

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Self-medicating is increasingly difficult to do, and I believe I should have the right to do so, without the state saying We Know Better Than You and It’s for Your Own Good. Doctors and ‘experts’ briefed by the pharma companies do their PR rounds saying we can’t have Kava, or triptophan, or Melatonin (in Canada at least)that can’t be regulated by the pharma corps, so they get the gov’t to ban it outright. Meanwhile some heart medication they’re using up here has been attributed to 70-odd deaths, and the talking heads from the industry say ‘we need to use it more carefully’, but since it makes them money, you won’t see it banned without a big public outcry.
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Ever wonder why marajuana is still illegal in most states for medical use? Because if a serious effort was ever made to make medical use legal, then the drug companies would raise holy hell. And the legalization of medical marajuana could, in fact, create a new revinue opportunity for these companies: growth and distribution of high-quality medical cannibas. Of couse, this being America, the paitent would have to obtain it from a licensed distributer. And guess who would have the licenses?

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Medical marijuana has been a

Medical marijuana has been a big issue up here for the past few years. The government agreed to allow it under very strict circumstances, but those allowed to take it can't grow their own.
There's a huge pot farm at the bottom of a former mine in Sudbury growing the medical stuff for patients, all scientifically controlled, etc. It's apparently crap, gives people headaches, doesn't relieve symptoms.
So, the theory is either the government is so incompetent they can't even grow pot, or someone's siphoning the good stuff off for the street or foreign markets, and giving the ill people garbage. Well, the government's imcompetent either way.

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I gather that you're in Canad

I gather that you're in Canada.
Yeah, NPR carried a story about that about three weeks ago. Sounds so stupid that it's almost American.

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I gather that you're in Canada.
Yeah, NPR carried a story about that about three weeks ago. Sounds so stupid that it's almost American.

He mentioned he was Canadian quite a ways up the thread.

I was reading through my newspapers profile of the candidates right before the election here. The guy from the Marijuana (sp?) Party seemed to have the best grounded argument, from my point of view. Most of the other articles were used to attack other parties. He even mentioned near the bottom that they knew their party couldn't win, so NDP was probably a pretty good way to vote.

I'm not sure I'd vote NDP, but I just found that really sad.

That being said, I'm still bitter. My 18th birthday was two days after the election.

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