email apps for Classic

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What is the best email application for Classic?

Is it possible to switch from Mail (v1.2.5 running in X.2.Cool back to a Classic email application and retain email folders/mailboxes?

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The version is X.2.8 - I gue

The version is X.2.8 - I guess my usage of a parenthesis forced the creation of a text smiley.

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'cuz I really do not want to

'cuz I really do not want to use OE

that and I cannot figure out an easy way to import mail from OS X's Mail app.

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can you even import this to OE?

I mean, I would like to use something else, but if OE is the only choice, I will have to live with it, but how can I import something in given the format of Mail (in OS X) is later than that of OE?

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What about Claris Emailer?

I have downloaded a copy of Claris Emailer and it looks okay (version 2- a 30 day trial). Anyone got any experience with this?

Right off the bat, I do not see anyway to get my email folders in. Kinda hoping to find a way to migrate everything backwards to a Classic application if I can...

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Ahh... Claris Emailer.....

I used to support that... back in the day... when there was still a Claris Corp.

Claris Emailer 2.0v3 is by no means the absolute end-all-be-all of Classic emailing, but it is quick and easy. I would prefer using Emailer over Outlook Express or even Entourage... but that's just me...

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Tell me more...

My needs are pretty simple, I may have occasional need to use include attachments. I do expect to recieve mail with attachments.

From what I have seen, the folder tab seems like it would allow me to keep a good organization of previous emails.

What are the cons of this tool, compared to others? Is there any way I can somehow archive my current catalog of emails from Mail and make them accessible (even if only in a read-only format outside of the Claris tool) for reference when composing new emails?

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Here's more...

Claris Emailer 2.0

Pro
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* Quick, easy setup
* Very configurable
* Small App footprint, and easily recoverable mail databases
* It's just plain cute, ain't it?

Con
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* Plain text only. You can only send plain text, you can only recieve plain text. HTML emails will sometimes be munged (pronounced "munj-d" - and, yes, that is the technical term we were taught during training for Emailer support) The either will not display at all, or you will get nothing but code.
* Vary large attachments can cause problems. As long as your attachments are less that about 500MB per piece, everything should be fine.

I really can't remember much more than that. I guess I need to open up my copy here and see what's what. I can't remember how the import thing works for email, so I'll look into that, too.

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I did not think about HTML...

I do get several folks who send things in HTML format. I am leaning very strongly towards Claris, but what would be your second choice if the need to support HTML was critical?

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Well...

Sad to say, but my second choice if HTML was necessary would be either Outlook Express or Entourage (part of Office 2001)...

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Emailer am gud,

been using it for mebbe a decade? One of the reasons I haven't switched my main desktop over to X, though I imagine it'd run fine under Classic.

A major advantage for me is its ability to retrieve AOL mail, AFAIK no other email client can do that ('cept AOL itself - Ugh!!) I've still got a legacy AOL mail addy on a $5/mo. account, and there's no way I'd even think of using AOL's web interface or AOL itself to access that mail. Emailer makes it easy to retrieve on a once-every-few-hours schedule.

It also ably handles multiple accounts and makes it easy to set them up. It's got pretty sophisticated filtering abilities. It has a very nice set of Applescript libraries, making it a very flexible kit, nice if you want to automate and integrate with other processes.

There's a very active Emailer maillist:
http://www.skytouch.com/lists/emailer-talk.html

It's an amazing piece of coding really, considering its advanced age I think it's holding up rather nicely.

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Emailer in Classic am gud, 2...

Just so you know, Emailer runs just fine under Classic.

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Been using Emailer for over 30 years now . . .

and rilly luv it.

NOT!

heh heh, my previous comment mentioned a decade's use, but I'm apparently a bit confused about time. I know I've been using it since '99 or so, which is tad short of a decade (at least in human years.) Laughing out loud

Ahh, I figgered it'd run under Classic. In fact if my (obviously lousy) memory serves me (which it may not!) I did try it and was happy with the results.

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Didn't look weird to me...

Claris Emailer first released in 1995... purt-damn-near a decade... ;D

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Eudora is pretty nice, and ha

Eudora is pretty nice, and has a Classic and OS X version.

Eudora Light 1.5.5 is the fastest, most intuitive, most stable and smallest email client that I have ever used. It even has filters.

The newest version (6) is an OE killer, is being actively developed for Classic and is freeware.

http://www.eudora.com/

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reviving this thread here,,,

So for any given Classic email app (or any of the specific ones mentioned here), how can I get my email out of Mail (for X) and into said Classic email app?

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text only

Quote:

Con
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* Plain text only.

I'd call that a feature.

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Emailer under Classic works great

Since my previous comments I've switched to X fulltime and continue to use Emailer v2.0v3 as my email client. I don't give a cr@p about html formatting, in fact I have a mail action that sends all html-formatted mail to my "deleted mail" folder! Tongue , and my only connections are via POP and AOL. Honestly, I haven't had any problems with Emailer ever! It just works.

What's really cool is that without any hiccups I could (if I needed to) seamlessly switch to a PB5300 running 7.6 and back again. How many apps do y'all use every day that can make that claim!! Err, might be a tad bit slower . . . heh heh, but still!

Yikes, I just checked and my mail database is over 450MB! MegaBytes! Over 5 years worth of mail!! And it still runs very nicely (fast!) on my TiBook. I keep meaning to clear out the old deadwood, but since the humungo DB doesn't seem to cause any problems I just haven't gotten around to it. Kinda nice to be able to do a quick search for an email from several years ago, and find it!

Edit: I do have one wish on my Emailer wishlist - it can't do SMTP. That means I can't send mail via my Comcast accounts from non-Comcast locations. Errr, well, maybe I can, but I haven't really figured out how yet. Anyway, it means I have to use my AOL account to send mail when I'm on the road (as I am right now.) Not a biggie really, just a minor annoyance.

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