scsi- usb adaptor?

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hey,

i have a scsi cd tower that holds 7 cd loders. i dont have a computer with scsi on it. i was wondering if someone knows where i can get a scsi-usb adaptor or something.

thanx

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http://www.pcmall.com Sear

http://www.pcmall.com

Search "scsi usb".

I'm sure a minute or two of searching on your own would of produced similar results. ;^b

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I owned one of the Entrega US

I owned one of the Entrega USB to SCSI adapters, back when my only Mac was the Rev. A iMac. Most of the ones marketed are OEM from the same manufacturer, so Entrega, Adaptec, etc. are all AFAIK the exact same unit.

They're pretty sucky for speed. They're only rated 700K/second with 1.4MB/s burst.

What computer are you hooking it up to? For less money you could get an Adaptec PCI card off ebay...if you have PCI available, that is.

Kinda funny actually...I'm looking for one of these Adaptec cards myself, for an ALPS printer someone sold me. Wink

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im using a b/w g3 so i could

im using a b/w g3 so i could buy a pci card, but i also want to use it on my titanium g4 powerbook.

here ya go eeun.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31494&item=6748403275&rd=1

i was going to buy it but you could take it.

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Re: I owned one of the Entrega US

eeun wrote:

I owned one of the Entrega USB to SCSI adapters...

So did I. It's a total piece of crap. Don't bother getting a SCSI-USB adapter. A PCI host card is a much better way to go.

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yes i know that but i need to

yes i know that but i need to use the tower with a titanium g4 pb. and as far as i know that doesnt have any open pci slots....

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Got my sights set a couple up

Got my sights set a couple up here in Canada, Pyro, but I appreciate the heads-up!

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Re: yes i know that but i need to

pyromaniac wrote:

yes i know that but i need to use the tower with a titanium g4 pb. and as far as i know that doesnt have any open pci slots....

Well, actually, the Titanium does have an open PCI slot of sorts. The PC card slot is 32-bit/cardbus compliant, so you can get an Adaptec SlimSCSI card for it. Now it's true, that card plus the PCI card for your B&W would, in total, likely cost more than a SCSI-USB adapter. But at the same time, you could resell the SlimSCSI card at a later date and probably recoup 80 percent of what you paid for it.

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Re: yes i know that but i need to

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Now it's true, that card plus the PCI card for your B&W would, in total, likely cost more than a SCSI-USB adapter. But at the same time, you could resell the SlimSCSI card at a later date and probably recoup 80 percent of what you paid for it.

Also comes down to how much your time is worth. Running a USB-SCSI adaptor at 0.7MBps compared to 20MBps with a PCI-SCSI card or a CardBus adaptor is no contest.

Another idea is to get the PCI-SCSI card for the desktop, then share the tower through 100Mbps networking. Will probably get only 8-10MBps throughput, but still 10x faster than the USB solution.

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what if i get a scsi-firewire

what if i get a scsi-firewire adaptor? firewire is 400mbs that would probably be alot better.

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whaddya wanna do and how much ya wanna spend?

Solution requires more info.

Is this a "what can I do with this old thing?" kind of question, or do you have an actual application in mind?

If the former, I agree with the suggestion to plug the tower into your B&W using a PCI -> SCSI adapter and using networking to share whatever assets are located in the CD tower. I mean, do you really need to connect this totally unportable tower directly to your PowerBook?

For the latter, here's a more radical solution -> ditch the SCSI mechanisms and buy a pile of ATAPI drives along with some ATA -> FireWire bridges, plus a FireWire hub to consolidate the whole mess. Not cheap, but certainly tons faster and it'll remain useful for years to come.

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Why in the world do you need

Why in the world do you need an old scsi jukebox tower for anyway these days? A single ancient 4 gig drive will practially store the 6 cds worth of data. You could get an external 40 gig drive and be able to store 50-60 cds worth of data.

We have one of those old towers at work and none of us want it. We can't just throw it away because its so cool looking but its really no longer useful in the days of 40 gig drives being "small".

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i m mostly using it to rip cd

i m mostly using it to rip cds to itunes and or to burn cds because all of the cds are cd rws.i have tried to sell it but it doesnt go for much and therefore i wouldnt be anywere close to have enough money for a bunch of ata drives.

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re: all of the cds are cd rws

If these (as it seems) are SCSI CD/RW drives, they are certainly worth something. Such SCSI drives are rather scarcer and certainly cost more than similar ATAPI drives. For example, I bet you'd find takers for all if you listed them for sale here.

BTW, this wouldn't happen to be a duplicating tower would it? Again, if so it's probably worth more than you seem to expect.

I gotta agree though, it makes little sense to use it as-is.

As for other possible (though unlikely for you) uses, I re-purposed an old 8 drive CD rackmount case with 3 full-size 47GB Elite drives (really cheap at the time) for my home/internet server. It's not exactly thrifty with the electricity but running 24/7/365 for the last four years it's near-as-damn-it failure-proof. Those old Seagate drives run forever!

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I didn't realize that they we

I didn't realize that they were cdrws. What speed are they? I believe you said that they were plextors, if they are at least plextor 12x scsi drives, then they are still usable (i can't remember exactly, but I think the 12x plextors were one of the first drives to have overburn protection on them).

If they are decent speed scsi plextor drives, I would part the tower out, scrap the tower (most companies that do mass duplicating have moved onto newer equiptment) and keep all the drives for yourself. Use the individiual drives for whatever use, and then try to sell them here if you so desire. If you sell them for a reasonable amount, I might even like to snag one of them. I had an old plextor 12x scsi drive with overburn protection that I loved until i dropped it one day. Never worked again.

Old scsi burner drives might be useful to us folk who still have older beige stuff thats better at scsi than ide.

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I'm trying to find one too.

I got my wife a MacMini and need to find an adapter for her old Epson large format scanner. Does anyone have any recommendations? I would preferr SCSI to Firewire, but will settle for SCSI to USB.

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Re: I'm trying to find one too.

TwoPynts wrote:

I got my wife a MacMini and need to find an adapter for her old Epson large format scanner. Does anyone have any recommendations? I would preferr SCSI to Firewire, but will settle for SCSI to USB.

I remember from my days with the Entrega USB-SCSI that it had extremely poor scanner support (ie - don't count on it).

The 2nd Wave scsi to firewire offers scanner support, but even then it's cheating a bit by trying to catch scsi calls and route them through firewire. Partial Epson scanner support listed, though it mentions hangs and crashes with variations in scanning software. No mention of the Silverfast utility which I assume you'd be using with the Epson.

Unless you can find an adapter that specifically supports your scanner, you might be wasting your money on an ineffective and frustrating solution.

You might try selling the Epson, and I know from selling an 836XL back in the spring that there's still a demand for these tabloid-size scanners in print shops and architectural firms. Ask around, and you can decide if the price is worth selling and upgrading.

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this might help

not sure if this device will work in a mac, but this guy has a pc card to scsi adaptor up for auction with a 250mb scsi zip drive.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Iomega-External-ZIP-Drive-250MB-SCSI-Z250S-Mac-PC_W0QQitemZ8732052345QQcategoryZ116252QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

it only connects to 25pin though

oh well

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I have an adaptec SCSI card

It came with the Jaz Drives. Not sure if it works with Mac though. I will test it on my AIO and see...

I also have a Xircom USB - SCSI hub. See http://www.applefritter.com/node/9366

That only works with OS 9 though. I doubt you can get one that works with (or properly with) OS X

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2nd Wave Firewire-SCSI adapter...

sorry-errors: see next post!

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2nd Wave Firewire-SCSI adapter...

What you'll require is a visit to Hamrick software's VueScane site (www.hamrick.com):

I'm running their highly rated software on my Epson Professional 636 and G4 Quicksilver (on-board SCSI), and it works BETTER now than with Epson's own software program!

My intention is to acquire a 2nd Wave Firewire-SCSI adapter (at a better price that their $99 list!), to enable a Firewire connection between my iMac and a Umax Astro 610, again usings VueScan.

If you visit 2nd Wave's site, they list compatibilities between a number of devices and their unit... and my Epson (and Umax) is listed - with the stipulation of using VueScan - as they indicated it's been tested with.

If and when I find a suitable, affordable site to acquire at less that $99, I'll post it here... unless any fellow-"fritters" have one they'd be willing to part with?