Apple II Cassette Interface

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Did the Apple II come with a built-in cassette Interface? How was it connected to the Apple II? Was there a special data-cassette player in 1977, or did you simply use a normal cassette player?

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Yes, but it is slow. . .

Yes, the Apple ][, ][+, and ][e came with cassette drive interfaces built in. I think that Apple probably sold a player under their name, but you could use an ordinary cassette player too.

You could connect these with a mini-plug (I don't think that it mattered if it was a stereo or mono plug, as both tracks would have the same signal, I'm pretty sure).

The old manuals have instructions on how to use this set-up.

You should know that this is a really slow method of data transfer. Also tapes are a linear access device, disks are random access devices.

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Just remember the casette int

Just remember the casette interface was touchy and slow... You had to set your volume just right or it would not work.

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An Apple branded cassette pla

An Apple branded cassette player? never heard of that... well, now I have to figure out how to get my hands on an 1976 cassette player... Wink

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a new use for the Apple iPod

Connect the iPod to the Cassette In port on your APPLE ][
Type LOAD from Applesoft on the APPLE ][
Play the MP3 of LITTLE BRICK OUT on the iPod
Type RUN and play the game on the APPLE ][

LOAD
SAVE
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STORE
SHLOAD

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Brilliant, a second method of A][ to modern computer interface

Awesome,

Brilliant! This is the second way (I know of) of directly interfacing modern Apple equipment with ancient.

The other one is when I plug my old Apple //c color monitor to my powerbook and use it as a second monitor, to increase the desktop space. (Yeah the resolution is minimal, but it works fine for playing QuitTime videos or playing Backgammon, while leaving the rest of the desktop available.)

I have the Compact Flash card reader in my //e, and can take out the CF card, put it in a PCMCIA holder, and in OS 9, transfer the files, no problem. But since no modern Mac can boot up in OS 9, this is no longer a "modern" method.

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1976 Cassette Player

Krest;

You can pick up a decent "vintage" cassette player
at almost any yard sale or thrift shop for pennies.
These are generally sturdy machines and will still
function as new. Best ones that I have found are
made under the GE brand. Don't pay more than $5 for
these. Cassette tapes (blank) are still available
from good ole Radio Shack and also WalMart.

I checked my Apple II technical library and found
no reference whatsoever to an Apple-branded tape
player. Operating references can be found in the
"Apple //e Owners Manual" on pages 16, 53, 98-100,
and 107. There are also illustrations of hardware
on page 17 as well.

Hope this is useful to you. I think that the idea
of using CF or iPods might be the better way to go.

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Special cord? or just common audio adapter?

Does it take a special cord? because whenever I looked back there on my IIe it always reminded me of like the Cabel input on the back of a TV, not a tape player adapter cord.

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Look again . . . deep into the mind of the computer

Look again, there are two pictures of a tape cassette back there. One for the output, one for the in. There is an RCA out jack for the monitor too.

Human memory isn't usually reliable. Trust the computer. Obey the computer. Follow the ways of the Apple II. Obey your Apple II. This conversation demonstrates that this is what you should practice.

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I KNOW

I know that...

I know, but the plugs dont look like any adapter input I've ever seen!

(bty, I dont have it anymore. lol)

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Re-Read my first response

Re-Read the first response. . ..

Mini-phono plugs. Never seen them before? Do you own some ear buds or a stereo head set? If so look at the end of the cable. That's what it looks like.

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Whatever...

when I get one again (soon) I'll try it... but where can you get just a simple tape player / recorder with an audio-out port and an audio-in port? Radioshack?... I'll look at Weird Stuff.

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Re: Apple II Cassette Interface

I am resurrecting this thread because I have discovered and purchased on Ebay a GE tape recorder advertised as the, "GE Computer Program Data Recorder 3-5158."

I just got one which appears to be NOS and I will test it on my iie.

I will post the results.

The manual gives specific instructions saying that it is designed for computer data and it gives instructions on how to load and save data.

The only test I have conducted so far is to play a music tape.

The speed seems to be correct so I am assuming that it will load pre apple recorded cassette programs.

This model (they say) is not for use on Commodore or Atari computers.

If there is anyone who has a tape for me to test it on I would use it to test this thing.