Dead Classic.

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I've got a dead old mac classic in my closet and i'm kind of inspired to fix it up.
It Turned it on a few years ago but it didn't work. but a few weeks before it died it wouldn't turn on dead but a few days later i turned it on and it worked.

Could this sybolise dead pram battery?
Or could it be a good candidate for a macaquarium?

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needs oil. classics needed oi

needs oil. classics needed oil

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what?

What do you mean by that

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If it starts . . .

. . . what's the point in making an aquarium out of it? Let's say it is the pram battery for the sake of argument. That would make it worthy of sacrifice? I'm not following the logic here.

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it was only a thought

It was only a thought to turn it into a macaqurium.
would any mac pram battery work eg powerbook 5300

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Re: it was only a thought

merty wrote:

It was only a thought to turn it into a macaqurium.
would any mac pram battery work eg powerbook 5300

Depending on your definition of "dead Classic", it may or may not have anything to do with the PRAM battery at all.

What happens when you turn your Classic on? Does it make the usual healthy Macintosh noises? Does the fan spin? Does it appear that the machine is attempting to boot the hard drive? If you're using an extended keyboard, do the LEDs flicker?

Let's not be so quick to sign the death certificate on this Classic. At least not before we see what the Macintosh surgeons can do...

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PRAM battery for Classic

Hey,

No, a PRAM battery from a 5300 will not work. It needs one those little one-third looking AA batteries. You can get one from Rat Shack. Here we go again but you can boot the Classic from ROM using command-option-x-o at startup.

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there are no startup noises.

There are no startup noises like the beep or fan noises and hard drive sound.
I know it's not the hard drives fault because i swapped hard drives from another classic

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Re: there are no startup noises.

merty wrote:

There are no startup noises like the beep or fan noises and hard drive sound.
I know it's not the hard drives fault because i swapped hard drives from another classic

If the fan doesn't spin, think: Power Supply.

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there wouldn't be a place...

There wouldn't be places that sell mac classic power supply's so i'll have to buy a mac classic for spare parts.
or is there a hard drive braket in a mac classic so i can insert it's hard drive into my working mac classic

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Not only would but are

You will need a complete analogue board. The same board is used in Classic and Classic II. Two eBay sellers that may have them currently, or as they come to hand, are KP's Surplus http://stores.ebay.com.au/KPs-Surplus_W0QQssPageNameZstrkQ3amefsQ3amesstQQtZkm and Ye Olde Mac Milt's Shoppe http://stores.ebay.com.au/Ye-Olde-Mac-Milt-s-Shoppe_W0QQssPageNameZstrkQ3amefsQ3amesstQQtZkm, but there will be others if you seek them out.

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Re: there wouldn't be a place...

merty wrote:

There wouldn't be places that sell mac classic power supply's so i'll have to buy a mac classic for spare parts.
or is there a hard drive braket in a mac classic so i can insert it's hard drive into my working mac classic

Let me see if I understand you correctly. You have two Mac Classic's, one that works, and one that doesn't. The Classic that works does not have a hard drive, while the Classic that does not work does have a hard drive.

You want to know if you can take the hard drive from the non-working Classic and put it into the working Classic?

Yes! Yes, you can take the hard drive from your non-working Classic and place it in your working Classic. The Classic's should be identical inside. (Modifications would cause some differences. I'm assuming your the owner of unmodified Classics.)

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can two

The question is can two hard drives be fitted i've already got on in my first one (the working one) but it's running out of space

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Re: can two

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The question is can two hard drives be fitted i've already got on in my first one (the working one) but it's running out of space

I suppose you could make a second hard drive fit. How important is having a floppy drive in your Classic? I suppose, theoretically, you could pull the floppy drive out and try to squeeze a hard drive in there. I suppose you could also find space to mount a small quarter heaight or 2.5" drive in there somewhere. Although this would preclude your use of the dead Classic's hard drive.

Why not build yourself an external hard drive for your Classic? All you'd really need is a case w/ powersupply, a SCSI cable, some SCSI connectors, and a terminator. (BTW: I can provide the SCSI connectors were you to build your own external enclosure.)

It's been a long time since I've looked inside a Classic and i don't recall how much free space is in there. I definitely know that there is not a space provided by Apple for a second hard drive.

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maybe i'll just...

Maybe i'll just buy a 1gb hard drive for my lc575 and put it's old hard drive (120 mb)in the classic instead of puting two hard drives in.
by the way my external scsi port is taken up by my external cd rom drive.
Then i can focus on getting a powerbook 190cs going.

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Re: maybe i'll just...

merty wrote:

Maybe i'll just buy a 1gb hard drive for my lc575 and put it's old hard drive (120 mb)in the classic instead of puting two hard drives in.
by the way my external scsi port is taken up by my external cd rom drive.
Then i can focus on getting a powerbook 5300 going.

Whatever you like; it's your machine...

Oh yeah, unless you've got six CDROM drives on your external SCSI port, you've plenty of opportunity to add external hard drives. If I recall correctly, a SCSI chain can have up to 8 ("eight") devices. Your internal hard drive usually takes SCSI ID 0 ("zero") and your Macintosh computer takes SCSI ID 7 ("seven"). If you have an internal CDROM (like you probably have in your LC575), it will usually be found on SCSI ID 3 ("three").

On your LC575, SCSI ID's 1,2,4,5, and 6 would be available for external SCSI devices. On your Classic, SCSI ID's 1,2,3,4,5, and 6 would be available for external SCSI devices. You would, of course, eliminate the SCSI ID assigned to the external CDROM on your Classic, this would leave you with 5 ("five") free SCSI IDs for up to 5 ("five") additional SCSI devices.

Peace.