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What type of computer is Applefritter currently being served on?

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I was just wondering this tod

I was just wondering this today. The last I heard, it was an Apple Network Server.

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The rare prototype? For some

The rare prototype? For some reason I thought it was switched over to a Pentium 4 running Debian at one point. This was a few years ago so I wondered if it changed since.

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Deep Dish died several years

Deep Dish died several years ago when the onboard SCSI controller blew. Here's more info on it:

http://www.applefritter.com/node/539

Here's the story about some problems we had with Deep Dish:

http://www.applefritter.com/node/536

AF is currently being hosted on Intel hardware running BSD. The machine was built by Eudimorphodon a couple years ago.

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What form of BSD?

What form of BSD?

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For security reasons, we're n

For security reasons, we're not too eager to talk about the exact configuration of the server. We got hacked into a few months ago, and recovering from that involved rebuilding the server from scratch.

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That makes sense. I am planni

That makes sense. I am planning on setting up a new system soon and I was interested in what good forms of secure OS's different people use. I was thinking about mkLinux or Darwin or DragonflyBSD.

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It's pretty hard to beat Open

It's pretty hard to beat OpenBSD in terms of out-of-the-box security. They've also gotten much better with useability and software choices. There are secure Linux options too, but Open is one of the gold standards, and it runs on nearly anything NetBSD does.

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I've been keeping track of Dr

I've been keeping track of DragonflyBSD and it sounds like a very good option-- if it ever gets finished. I wouldn't use it for a production server due to its incomplete status.

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Re: hard to beat

What are the differences between OpenBSD and NetBSD?

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The main focus of Net is port

The main focus of Net is portability. The main focus of Open is proactive security. Open was derived from the NetBSD codebase, and still shares many improvemnts from and back to Net. Open took an extensive audit of the source and made changes to help prevent buffer overflows and other obvious programmer mistakes that lead to security flaws. Almost the exact opposite of most other mainstream OSs. And we all know which one is the biggest offender. Wink

Heck, NetBSD even runs on a real toaster. And, as ax0n once described it, "if your dog has a processor, it'll probably run NetBSD." He's a big Open fan, and even uses it as a desktop. Open has come quite a long way, but it does need broadband to really be useful to install. That is one advantage of Net. Net has many ISOs available to make a CD for almost any platform, and also has one of the best cross-platform development setups anywhere.

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Re: The main focus of Net is port

Jon wrote:

NetBSD even runs on a real toaster.

Heh, that's sweet! whowouldathunkit? Man, I wish I found that link a long time ago. I'll have to share that with some *nix Friends I have. I got one to change from the crappy HP they had, and got them to pick up a 867MHz PB G4. He has not regretted it since. he only regrets that he didn't switch sooner.
He works on security and First Data Resources, and maintains their unix systems

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accounts available?

I wonder if you can get an account on that toaster...

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DeepDish

what ever happened to Deep Dish? is it still sitting around in the backwaters of AppleFritter somewhere?

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