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Value of an Apple ///
« on: Jul 16th, 2003, 5:37pm »
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I can get my hands on an Apple /// at school, no monitor or mouse. I don't like non-Macs, so it would simply be acquired to sell it. What are they worth?
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Re: Value of an Apple ///
« Reply #1 on: Jul 17th, 2003, 7:13am »
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Greetings,
 
 (The universal answer to your simple question;) It depends.
 
  I've traded and sold several of these over the last five years.  People on ebay who bid on these things want them to be clean, functional, and come as a set (meaning the CPU, the monitor, a manual, and at least one piece of software).  With that combo you can get about $350-$450 for it.   Another piece of attractive hardware that goes with these units is the ProFile harddrives, in either 5MB or 10MB sizes.
 
  If you don't have a monitor, I suggest that you at least borrow one, get a piece of software, set the thing up and see if it'll boot up.  Good luck.
 
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 18th, 2003, 1:18am »
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So, as it is, would I at least be looking at a price of A$50-$100? That would be cool....
 
I thought the /// was an unpopular wreck in it's day, so why would anyone care about it now, when it's as useless as ever?!
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Re: Value of an Apple ///
« Reply #3 on: Jul 18th, 2003, 6:32am »
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Greetings,
 
     Nope, you're assuming that a dead one might have some value, by extrapolating from the price from a working system, which isn't the case.  I've had a couple of dead ones, couldn't fix them readily, so I gave them to an interested party.  If yours is dirty, doesn't work, and you can't hook up with a low end, high tech collector, then you can still use it as a boat anchor or door stop.
 
     Like anything that people collect,  Apple ///'s and ///+'s have a percieved value.  In their day, they were actually capable business machines with quite a bit of professional support software written for them.   They are historicly significant in that the operating system, SOS, could have files, subfiles, directories, subdirectories, and could access large storage mediums, like harddrives, a big deal in 1982.  SOS lead to the Lisa's operating system, which lead to the Macintosh's and ProDOS on the Apple ]['s.  At about $10,000 a unit though, they didn't sell very quickly.  There are hardware problems which shorten the lifespans of the ///'s, that were fixed in the ///+'s which as far as I could tell were rock solid machines.
 
  Good luck.
 
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 9th, 2003, 8:31pm »
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hello. . .
 
I have an opportunity to aquire a functioning apple ///.  The current owner writes for a living, and in the 80s he used it to type out some ideas.  The catch is I have to figure out how to get those files he made on the /// printed.  He is not too worried about them, but  I feel it is the least I could do.  He has the word processing software for the files he made.  What would be the best way to do this?
-Find a printer that works with a /// (would have to purchase, find drivers, etc)
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-work with the technology I have available right now
commodore (with printer & disk drive. . .compatible?), mac se, 68ks, g3, PIIIw2k
 
any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
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Re: Value of an Apple ///
« Reply #5 on: Sep 10th, 2003, 5:09am »
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on Sep 9th, 2003, 8:31pm, wisof wrote:
I have an opportunity to aquire a functioning apple ///.  The catch is I have to figure out how to get those files he made on the /// printed.
I'd look into connecting the Apple /// to your PC or Macs via a serial cable and "printing" from the Apple /// whilst capturing text with a terminal application (like ZTerm or Hyperterminal) on the newer computer side.  Then, you can print the documents from the other computer or archive them on a newer format like CD or 3.5" floppy.
 
Don't be surprised if some of the Apple /// floppies are dead.  Magnetic floppy disks where never meant to last 20 years.
 
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Re: Value of an Apple ///
« Reply #6 on: Sep 10th, 2003, 7:54am »
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Don't be surprised if some of the Apple /// floppies are dead.  Magnetic floppy disks where never meant to last 20 years.

 
soooo lets hypothetically say that for some miraculous reason, the floppies still had some magnetic pep.  Could I hook up an external 5.25 floppy drive to one of the 68ks and load the software (probably through some kind of emulation of SOS) and go that route?
 
Seems like there are a few avenues.  I will check around for a serial cable and try out what you suggested.  Here goes nothing!
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Re: Value of an Apple ///
« Reply #7 on: Sep 10th, 2003, 8:34am »
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on Sep 10th, 2003, 7:54am, wisof wrote:
Could I hook up an external 5.25 floppy drive to one of the 68ks and load the software (probably through some kind of emulation of SOS) and go that route?
I'm not aware of any Macintosh-compatible 5.25 floppy drives that would read the Apple /// disks, but I could be very easily wrong.  Just be careful about plugging unknown stuff into your Mac because many PC peripherals use a 25-pin parallel port cable that is NOT compatible with the 25-pin SCSI port on a Mac.
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 10th, 2003, 12:02pm »
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And most older Apple manuals tell you very specifically to NEVER plug a 5.25" drive into your Mac.  Doing so has been know to fry the drive, the controller or the Mac, IIRC.  Your best bet might to use a 3.5" capable A2 like a IIc or GS and move the files onto a 3.5" ProDOS disk, then get them off of that with a Mac.
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Re: Value of an Apple ///
« Reply #9 on: Sep 10th, 2003, 12:41pm »
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very valuable info Jon!
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Re: Value of an Apple ///
« Reply #10 on: Oct 13th, 2003, 6:22pm »
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 A friend of mine years (mid 80's) ago had an Apple ///.  It was a cool machine being able to run emulated Apple II programs on it.  Can you believe he traded it straight across for a slightly used Mac 128?  At the time he got a good deal.
 
  I understand that some Apple ///s might be able to be fixed by reseating all the IC's if they're socketed.  When the A/// was designed, Apple was stringent on the case dimensions so the PCB was just made to fit thus was not optimized for cooling airflow.  This might cause IC's to 'work' their was loose in the sockets just enough for a poor IC leg contact.
 
  So, if reseating the IC's does fix it you can prolly bump up the denero a tad.  Nice collectors item.
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