Apple II Replica

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With all the brilliant Apple I replicas there are I got wondering, how possible would an Apple ][ replica be? If we could get permission from Apple (rather then make an illegal clone like others did back in the day) who would be interested in such a hacking project? I know that it would be hard, no doubt about that! But surely something like this would be fun for those interested in an Apple ][ clone and that if people wanted it they would work for it? What do you guys here think?

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Re: Apple II Replica

The cost to create a complete Apple II replica (forgetting the legals) would be prohibitive. When you can buy a II plus for peanuts compared to the individual parts to build one it doesn't make sense. Mike Willegal created in the past an Apple II rev 0 reproduction board to restore his original Apple II and he made it available, but that is about the furthest I think you'll see. The main differences between early II plus and later II computers were the ROMs as they even shared the biggest problem with creating a clone, the raised power indicator keyboard. The cost to "tool" and make the keyboard with raised power indicator is in the thousands. maybe with a 3d printer it could be done but I'm not sure.

Later II plus machines have one of various different keyboards that wouldn't be useful and the power supplies are a different color so that would also need to be recreated. Reproduction II badges do show up periodically on eBay so we know that can be done.

So in the end not worth it.

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FPGA implementations seem a nice compromise between PC-based emulators versus the expense/complexity of reconstructing the hardware. You still get a dedicated Apple II of a sort which can be made somewhat close in external appearance to at least a II clone (a 10-footer? thanks for that term, Corey), maybe even using the case and keyboard from a dead II or clone.
Guess it all depends on whether you're willing to accept that it's still emulation.

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Re: Apple II Replica

That is the exact route that Vince Briel took with his Altair Micro. It's an Altair on a single microcontroller. He did a mini case instead of a full case but people including myself love their Altair Micro's.

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Re: Apple II Replica

I did a reproduction rev 0 motherboard PCB.

http://www.willegal.net/appleii/appleii-recreation.htm

I sold 15 kits and 1 bare PCB and made a few hundred bucks over a period of a couple of years. Authentic production Apple IIs are just too plentiful to make this a viable enterprise.

That said, I'll probably make another batch of PCBs in the future for the few people that like making vintage computer kits, missed out on the first run and are willing to find their own parts.

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Mike WIllegal wrote:

That said, I'll probably make another batch of PCBs in the future for the few people that like making vintage computer kits, missed out on the first run and are willing to find their own parts.

I'll say, I'm definitely interested in getting one. It's just the pricing that causes me to have hesitation.

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Mike WIllegal wrote:

That said, I'll probably make another batch of PCBs in the future for the few people that like making vintage computer kits, missed out on the first run and are willing to find their own parts.

I'll say, I'm definitely interested in getting one. It's just the pricing that causes me to have hesitation.

Seconded. (purely for educational purposes of course Wink )

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swinsor wrote:
Dog Cow wrote:
Mike WIllegal wrote:

That said, I'll probably make another batch of PCBs in the future for the few people that like making vintage computer kits, missed out on the first run and are willing to find their own parts.

I'll say, I'm definitely interested in getting one. It's just the pricing that causes me to have hesitation.

Seconded. (purely for educational purposes of course Wink )

Of course. Wink

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Sorry for digging up an old post, was just wondering whether anyone has recently been interested in Apple ][ replicas? I've enjoyed reading the build process on Mike's page, but it's not clear whether the PCBs and/or kits are still available.

I'm starting off on my second attempt at an Apple 1 replica based on Vince Briel's design, but I'm already looking ahead to what I might want to do next.

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Nishida Radio's NISHIPPLE is probably the closest thing you will ever find in a modern Apple II clone or replica:

http://tulip-house.ddo.jp/DIGITAL/NISHIPPLE/english.html

I don't think it is being made at this time.

Here's a happy customer:

http://pasopia700.blogspot.com/2013/01/nishipple.html
http://pasopia700.blogspot.com/2013/01/dram.html
http://pasopia700.blogspot.com/2013/01/nishipple_7.html
http://pasopia700.blogspot.com/2013/03/blog-post_24.html

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Re: Apple II Replica

I too would love to get 2 of these replica boards - 1 to build and 1 to display.

Jennifer

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If there is enough interest maybe we can coordinate to get a new small batch of replica boards made since Mike Willegal has made his Rev. 0 design files available to us. I would like to build one up to restore the appearance of my oldest Apple ][ (serial number 631) to full Rev. 0. It still has the original case, power supply and keyboard but the motherboard was upgraded by the original owner in 1981.
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It should be done. I would support it.

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RichardL wrote:

If there is enough interest maybe we can coordinate to get a new small batch of replica boards made since Mike Willegal has made his Rev. 0 design files available to us. I would like to build one up to restore the appearance of my oldest Apple ][ (serial number 631) to full Rev. 0. It still has the original case, power supply and keyboard but the motherboard was upgraded by the original owner in 1981.
Richard

I would also support this. In fact, I would like 2 of these motherboards - 1 to build and 1 to frame Smile

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OK I'll start looking into some options for a PCB fabricator.
Richard