Setting up OS X server on B&W

I have no problems running Tiger Server on my B&W, and I didn't even need to run XPostFacto. I didn't even have to run XPostFacto to install Tiger client on it.

That is the strange thing I can't understand, it meets all the requirements but I still had to use XPostFacto to install Tiger. I tried with the DVD and the tried using the CD version, both originals. There are no mods on the B&W just factory 350MHz with upgraded hard drive option and DVD oprtion.

Could you use XPF on a Beige to run Tiger Server?

Don't have a Biege Mac (well one that works anyways)

how much ram do you have in the B&W?

I have 768MB installed, 60GB hard drive and superdrive.

Go ahead and use XPostFacto... its not just for unsupported Macs anymore!

FYI
The ONLY differences between OS X Client and Server are the QuickTimeStreamingServer.pkg, the ServerAdministrationSoftware.pkg, and the ServerEssentials.pkg.

Hypothetically, on Client you could use Darwin Streaming Server (same thing as the QuickTime Streaming Server sans GUI interface), you can get the Server Administration Software off Apple's site... which really only leaves the ServerEssentials.pkg that separates the Client from the Server editions of OS X. This is where the mail server (along with the web-based email interface and mailing list manager), FTP Server, MySQL files, additional startup items (NAT, IPFilter, IPFailover, IPAliases, Mailman, Watchdog, MySQL, Samba, Headless Startup, SerialTerminalSupport, and ServerManagerDaemon) is installed from, among some other stuff like more UNIX utilities.

Actually, Client, being *nix, really is a server (multiuser, multitasking, web, ftp, printer, Windows, ARD, ssh, etc.) in its own right!

I will give it a shot. I just want to know why though my B&W wont install Tiger without XPostFacto. Its strange.

It might be useful to know that Tiger breaks many older versions of 3rd party (server) SW. For example, in my case Timbuktu 6 server won't work under Tiger without a paid upgrade to v8.

If I were doing it over, I'd install Panther client on my server instead of Tiger. The complexity of Server is well beyond what I really need, and I sure didn't need my beloved Timbuktu to break. Sigh, I'll pony up for the TB2 version upgrade soon, unless I just decide to downgrade back to Panther instead

FYI, my server is a 9600/G3/Tiger-client running servers AFP, ftp and VNC locally, and Carracho and Hotline (v1.23 under Classic!) publicly.

dan k

Exactly what kind of problems are you experiencing?

I installed Tiger Server on my Quicksilver (G4 733, 1GB RAM, 2x40GB, 1x250GB, DVDRW) last night, and it wouldn't boot off of the install DVD. I had to hold down the option key and select the DVD as the startup volume. (Does the old "hold the C key until it boots from CD" not work anymore?)

I found that you can't install to a drive/partition without telling the Installer to erase the destination and do a clean install.

Hope this helps,

Cheers,

The Czar

Not this will necessarily be helpful or anything, but...

They're not anywhere near as bad as Beige G3s or tray-loading iMacs, but I've had my share of quirky behaviour from my B&W as well. When it comes to OS X it's big "thing" is it just plain doesn't work correctly unless I partition the hard disk using OS 9. On multiple occasions I've tried booting the OS X CD/DVD and installing after partitioning within the installer, and although everything *appears* to work correctly I'll get the *real helpful* (/) "No!" logo on the screen when trying to boot off the hard disk.

(I haven't seen this problem widely reported, so perhaps it's just something about my machine. But it does apply to every large hard disk I've tried.)

As a general rule before dealing with OS X on any pre-AGP mac I'd suggest sacrificing a chicken or two, just as a precaution. You never know what sort of voodoo you might encounter.

--Peace