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Bought 2 apple II's (not plus) at garage sale - pics attached for help with IDins them

Submitted by 1MHZ on February 26, 2007 - 12:18am. Apple II

I bought two of em ...one with gold chips labeled 1978 and the other 1979...the ram chips are different on them.

The bottom of the 2nd label is confusing cuz it reads a2s2...and a2s1 on it?

Any help iding them both would be great. Are they both 2's ? Is one earlier than the other? One has 16k chips on the side and the other does not....please help

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Submitted by 1MHZ on March 10, 2007 - 11:10pm.

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The A2S2 looks like it might

Submitted by JamesD on March 10, 2007 - 11:33pm.

The A2S2 looks like it might have come from the factory with 48K and the language card. Given the 1979 date I'd say it's one of the last II runs if it's a II.

The other one has different kinds of RAM in different rows... so I'm guessing it was originally 16K and upgraded later. I'd guess it's an earlier version.

Apple IIs will have Integer Basic in ROM and Apple II+ machines will come with Applesoft in ROM. That's one way to check what they are.

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I noticed the one has a 1978

Submitted by JamesD on March 11, 2007 - 3:00pm.

I noticed the one has a 1978 date on the lettering.

Was there something in particular you wanted to know?

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thanks for the reply

Submitted by 1MHZ on March 13, 2007 - 2:05am.

much appreciated. I am sure the 78 is an apple II...i was wondering if the other appears to be as well? It is marked 1979. However, it looks much differenct than the II plus that i have.

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Check to see what BASIC is in

Submitted by JamesD on March 13, 2007 - 3:04am.

Check to see what BASIC is in ROM.
I'm guessing it's just a late II.

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Here's how to tell: Model #

Submitted by vbriel on March 21, 2007 - 2:39am.

Here's how to tell:
Model # A2S0... is Apple II and the serial number is A2S1...

Apple IIplus models are A2S1... and the serial # is A2S2...

Boards get swapped out over time, ROM's get upgraded, lids get changed around but you can't hide the model and serial #'s, they are true to fact. Some people say that the older Apple II board with the 16K jumpers indicate it is an apple II but I have personally seen Apple IIplus computers with these boards installed. Around the change over time between the II and the IIplus it was common to see the older II keyboards (raised power light) in IIplus models and the newer IIplus keyboard with the flat power light in the II models. Same went for the mainboards. It makes sense that they used up their inventory.

Hope this helps, people may argue and say their A2S2 is an original II but as far as most experts say, that isn't true.

Just curious but did your II's come with lids? Are they II or IIplus lids?

Vince

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