Transferring disk images from PC to apple IIe.

Apple II

I want to download software onto 5.25 inch floppies and run them on my IIe. Is there anyway I can download disk images and transfer them onto a 5.25 inch floppy? If there is could someone please tell me how. Thank you.

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Sure, get a copy of ADT and t

Sure, get a copy of ADT and transfer away. See:
http://adt.berlios.de

If you need some info on serial connections, the ADTPro website has pictures and such:
http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/connectionsserial.html

ADT and ADTPro are related, but since you have a PC and a 5-1/4" drive on your Apple, you only need ADT.

I have a 5.25 inch on pc

I have a 5.25 inch floppy drive on my pc. Is there a way I can format the floppy to prodos through my pc and put stuff on it?

PC 5.25 disk drives

That I know of, anyone who knows better can correct me, PC 5.25 drives CANNOT format disks for Apple II computers. You'll need to transfer the file to your II using either ADT or ADTPro, which wil write the program to the 5.25 disk drive on your Apple II.

Dean

I think I have serial card.

I don't have a serial card on my IIe. But i have a serial port on my IIc. But the IIc has a dead keyboard rom. When I transfer, will it save to the disk, not the RAM on the apple II?

Dead keyboard rom

Can you type anything with the keyboard? You need to be able to use the keyboard to tell ADT/ADTPro what program you want the Apple to receive from the host computer and where to save it.

Dead keyboard rom

Sorry for the double post.

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[quote=DaveyPocket]I don't ha

DaveyPocket wrote:
I don't have a serial card on my IIe. But i have a serial port on my IIc. But the IIc has a dead keyboard rom.
You are in a bit of a sticky wicket, aren't you? You can't use the 5-1/4" drive on your PC. You can't do the transfer on the IIc without a keyboard to control things. Your only option left is to do audio-based transfers with ADTPro (http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/connectionsaudio.html).

I tell you all.

So here is what I have. My apple IIc has modem/printer port. I can't type a single character on that thing. And I didn't even know about the audio transfer thing. Thanks for telling me about that. I don't have a super serial card on my IIe and I can't find any on ebay. I also didn't know about typing in ADT on the apple IIc. I'm a little lost here.

Super Serial card

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Going from 3.5 to 5.25?

I have an Apple IIc Plus, and external 5.25" drive. The IIc Plus has a built-in 3.5" drive. Is there any way to use a vintage Mac (such as LC III, Quadra series, etc.) to format a 3.5" disk for ProDOS, and copy a .dsk image onto it using the Mac, then use the IIc Plus to copy from 3.5" onto 5.25"?

Also I picked up an Apple III but have no software for it. I found disk images for it online, but I have no clue how to get them onto a disk that the Apple III can read. Any ideas?

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MacADT

Dark Goob wrote:
Is there any way to use a vintage Mac (such as LC III, Quadra series, etc.) to format a 3.5" disk for ProDOS, and copy a .dsk image onto it using the Mac, then use the IIc Plus to copy from 3.5" onto 5.25"?
Sure, just use MacADT on the LC III to transfer images directly to the IIc. Here is some discussion about it:
http://77.99.98.131/Sample%20Files%20&%20Templates/serial.html
And here is the copy of MacADT that guy is hosing:
http://77.99.98.131/Sample%20Files%20&%20Templates/macadt121.sit

I got it working.

I got the transfers to work. Thanks for your help everyone. I use audio transfers. Works great!

Can it be done directly?

Nono, I mean- is there a way to do it WITHOUT using MacADT?

Why can't you just attach the 5.25" drive directly to the Mac and copy it over that way? Or use the Mac to format a ProDOS disk and then copy the files to it using the Mac? Is there no way to do it this way?

Just curious.

-=DG=-

Also those websites you linke

Also those websites you linked to don't work.

Can it be done directly - No.

You can't hook a apple II 5.25 disk drive directly to a Mac. The closest you could come is to use one of the older Macs that has an Apple IIe card in it. You connect the drive to the IIe card and you're in business.

Which system software are you using on your Mac? Depending on how old it is you could format a 3.5 disk with Prodos, but unless you've got a GS or a Universal Disk Drive Controller card in your IIe you're still out of luck.

The unfortunate truth of the matter is that with a modern Mac you can only transfer programs to your II via something like MacADT or ADTPro. At least as far as I know.

Dean

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Re: Also those websites you linke

Dark Goob wrote:
Also those websites you linked to don't work.
Sorry about that - looks like his site is down. After all, as he says - "Built and Served on a Powerbook 540c." One day, the parent site may be back up:
http://www.haddockdot.co.uk/
Here's where I originally found out about it:
http://68kmla.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=9743&sid=7f0cc20f657e3db87109f08749f9d75e

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Plugging an Apple II 5.25" dr

Plugging an Apple II 5.25" drive into a Mac may fry the drive, the drive controller and/or the Mac. It's not a good idea overall. Eye-wink

O.O

:/ Good thing it did not lol.

Well good news is I've got plenty of serial cables and old Macs to do the xfers with. Now to buy a bunch of 5.25 disks on ebay.

Apple III disks didn't work

OK so I have been able to successfully transfer .dsk files from an SE/30 to an Apple //c. It was pretty straight forward. I got the Lemonade disk to work.

However, I copied the Apple3SystemUtils.dsk file onto a disk using the MacADT to ADT on the Apple //c. But then I get an "I/O Error" when I try to start up the Apple /// from that disk.

So I am not sure if the Apple /// is faulty, or if perhaps there is something I'm doing wrong in how I'm copying the ADT files over. I heard that the Apple /// uses a different disk format than the //-series. (16 tracks vs. 14 or something).

I format my disk (SS/DD 140kb) using INIT HELLO on the Apple //c. Then I used ADT to copy from MacADT on the SE/30. I used 19200 speed which worked for all my Apple //-series transfers.

Is there something else I have to do to get Apple /// stuff to work? I really want to get it up and running but so far I've been unsuccessful.

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Apple III .DSK

I transfered Apple III .DSKs from my PC to an Apple IIe using ADT. They all worked fine. The Apple IIe would not boot them or read them, But when I transfered the disk to an Apple III, it booted right up.

Another problem I ran into with the Apple III is that if any of the RAM is bad, it would not load a disk. If the Apple III has been setting for awhile then I would run a RAM check on it.

How do you run the RAM check on Apple ///?

How do you run the RAM check on Apple ///? I will be glad to test this theory of yours, littlejohn, but I have no idea how to run a RAM test without being able to even boot up the machine. I understand that at one point in time, there did exist a "Apple III Dealer Diagnostic diskette" (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=145&coll=ap) but I have no idea how to obtain one. Unless you have a .DSK file of one of course!

I fear that my drive may be bad however... it seems to try to read the disk and the red light goes on for about 5-10 seconds before I get the I/O ERROR. And if I insert non-Apple-/// disks like a ProDOS boot disk, it just beeps angrily and gives the old RETRY ; message. So I am at a loss here.

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It is an Apple III internal R

It is an Apple III internal RAM check. If I remember correctly, you break into the monitor routine, and type 'F6E6G' then ENTER. I will have to do some searching for further information.

Break into the monitor routine?

Break into the monitor routine? What exactly does that mean? How do you do it? Thanks for any info.

I also might just have dirty drive heads... who knows. I think my Apple /// is one of the earlier units that was prone to failure. So we'll see what happens but I might just sell it for parts on eBay if all else fails.