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Submitted by vantage point on November 9, 2005 - 4:22am. 680x0 Macs and Lisa

I'm just getting ready to install NetBSD 3.0 on my Quadra 950. I realize that I'm going to have to use a serial console to actually use this machine following the installation, but that's a small price in my opinion.

I currently have NetBSD 2.1_RC6 installed on my Quadra 700, and NetBSD 2.1_RC6_softfloat installed on an LC III. Once I get NetBSD 3.0 up and running on the Quadra 950, that will be three 68k Macs that I have running NetBSD.

Anyway, I'm curious as to what others are doing with their 68k Unix boxes. Which distributions are you using? What applications are you using your 68k Unix box for?

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debian on 660av

Submitted by dscarbrough on November 9, 2005 - 4:29am.

tried debian potato on my quadra 660av a while back. nightmare. no sound support, didn't like the ethernet, and x never did work. gave up. installed macbsd on a centris 650 once, too. useless for the most part but i was able to terminal into our server. the centris made a great backup mail server running 8.1 and eudora mail server 2.2.2. actually worked REALLY well, and only had 12 megs of ram and was running macdns as well.

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big 3.0 problem

Submitted by catmistake on November 9, 2005 - 2:06pm.

it hasn't been released, yet, has it? right now I'm working on upgrading an SE/30 from 1.6.1 to 2.2... but the 1.6.1 installation was hosed from the beginning, no make... and I'm realizing I don't have the build.sh script, so I don't know how I'm going to build the updated tools to start with. Anyone know where I can grab that (just that)?

I'm also looking for sites with 68k FreeBSD installation instructions. Someone have some good sources?

And I'm curious if
Debian the only or best linux option for 68k macs? Where's the best introduction/instruction sites?

I've also got an SE/30 with A/UX 3.1, but having a hell of a time getting it to network (not sure where the problems is... I keep rebuilding the kernel for the card, there is some network activity... anyway, on hold for now).

Also, eventually, I'm going to get AIX running on this ANS... but I want a NetBSD installation first, and I can't find the damn instructions... (yes, for now, I still paint by numbers)

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I don't think there is a 68k

Submitted by Jon on November 9, 2005 - 9:38pm.

I don't think there is a 68k release of FreeBSD, heck they don't even have much support for NewWorld PPC Macs. There is 68k support for OpenBSD, though it can lag behind NetBSD. Open has made advances in many non-platform specfic areas over Net, on the other hand.

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Perhaps this link will help i

Submitted by moosemanmoo on November 9, 2005 - 9:51pm.

Perhaps this link will help in your NetBSD endeavours?
http://www.shiner.info/?manuals/netbsd/index.html

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That's one of the broken one's

Submitted by catmistake on November 9, 2005 - 10:14pm.

http://www.shiner.info/install/installing_NetBSD.pdf

Quote:
Enough talk, here's the guide: Installing NetBSD 1.6 onto the Apple Network Server 700 with a Mylex RAID card.

That's the very manual I am looking for. The link is broken. There are a few other broken links for this too... Didn't anyone hang onto it? Please check around!

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You're right.

Submitted by vantage point on November 9, 2005 - 11:37pm.

You're right, 3.0 hasn't yet been officially released, but it is available in all of its buggy glory. The latest official release of NetBSD is 2.1.

I've tried Linux on my 68k machines, but I find Debian (potato and woody) to be very sluggish. I'm pretty much running NetBSD on virtually all of my "active duty" 68k Macintosh computers. I might give Debian a try on my 7200 though. NetBSD doesn't yet support the 601 processors.

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A/UX Server Admin

Submitted by catmistake on November 10, 2005 - 5:29am.

of interest
(pdf download warning)

A/UX Server Admin

I just spent the last hour or so getting the Apple DocViewer documents that come with the A/UX 3.01 into pdf, and I discovered someone already had. The other two documents are titled so generically that I think it'd be hard to find them... so I've dropped all 3 in a zip file on my web server for easy (but not quick) download.

The A/UX Documentation in pdf

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I guess it doesn't really cou

Submitted by Tom on November 13, 2005 - 1:26pm.

I guess it doesn't really count, but I used Mac06 on my old LC III in middle school. It was just a POSIX compatible environment that ran on top of the Mac OS.

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I ran a server...apache, cuci

Submitted by logjam on November 15, 2005 - 6:39pm.

I ran a server...apache, cucipop, bind, samba, etc. All current sources compiled and run on a Centris 650 with 40MB of ram and a 10GB hard drive. It ran for about 6 years non stop as my main server until I turned it off in June, just because I was afraid of it blowing up due to age and me loosing all my documents!

Worked fine. Doesn't sound like the Quadra 950 is the way to go if you can't see the words.

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Okay, I've installed Debian (Woody) on my 7200/90

Submitted by vantage point on November 15, 2005 - 7:04pm.

Okay, I've installed Debian (Woody) on my 7200/90 and it's a no-go. Apparently, the base install of Debian will not fit on a 400MB hard drive. Sad Ah, shucks....

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Current versions of Linux sim

Submitted by Abecedaria on December 31, 2005 - 3:34pm.

Current versions of Linux simply blow for 68k Macs. They are unusably slow on 030 macs and barely usable on the 040s. My suggestion is OpenBSD or NetBSD as suggested earlier in the thread. NetBSD seems to be the most mature and well supported.

http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/mac68k/

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FYI - 1.6.2 is recommended

Submitted by catmistake on December 31, 2005 - 4:48pm.

I've been monitoring the NetBSD mac68K list serv, and it appears like some are having trouble with 3.0 and kernel panics on 68k hardware (SE/30s and Q700s listed). Apparently, 2.1 was working fine, but the majority consensus is that 1.6.x is rock solid.

Also, others with SE/30s and accellerators have problems with make, just like I do. When the accellerator is removed, compilers seem to work fine... so it would appear that building the system without the accellerator, and with all the software you are likely to use, are the steps to take before installing the accellerator.

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