Which motherboard are these from?

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I wonder how the ROM is doing. Smile

Its a good thing the board only got the dose of a dental shot

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I would guess...

I would guess that it's from a very early Macintosh or something from the Apple II line. The large IC, without counting pins, is either a 68000 processor or a 6502 processor. It's interesting to note how symetrically aligned the components are. That was very typical of very early boards. Newer boards aren't as tidy.

If you compare early boards to modern boards, you will notice that components used to be placed on the boards in very discernible grids. I would guess that this was either due to manufacturing restraints or to simplify the design process. More modern boards don't appear to utilize any readily apparent grid pattern for component placement.

So, which machine are they from?

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Definitely the mobo of 128K or a 512K

It's the motherboard of either a Macintosh 128K or a 512K. As you know, both machines used the same logic board.

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Its a 512k board. :)

Its a 512k board. Smile

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knew it

The bit IC, a 68000, the ram chips on top of it (they are a bit different than other ICs), the two socketed roms underneath, and the RJ11 keyboard connector, its definately a 128/512 (the plus had SIMM slots)

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Re: I would guess...

managed resistance wrote:

... It's interesting to note how symetrically aligned the components are. That was very typical of very early boards. Newer boards aren't as tidy.

If you compare early boards to modern boards, you will notice that components used to be placed on the boards in very discernible grids. I would guess that this was either due to manufacturing restraints or to simplify the design process.

And just imagine the problems that Dove Computer would have had in designing and making their clip-on RAM expansion board (MacSnap) for the 512K/512Ke if it were not so. Even so, it's quite a job to get the 2MB expansion card off one logic board for transfer to another. Is it also possible that more recent boards have had the luxury(?) of multilayer technology to get from point A to point B directly rather than via point Z?

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Re: I would guess...

grannysmith wrote:
managed resistance wrote:

... It's interesting to note how symetrically aligned the components are. That was very typical of very early boards. Newer boards aren't as tidy.

If you compare early boards to modern boards, you will notice that components used to be placed on the boards in very discernible grids. I would guess that this was either due to manufacturing restraints or to simplify the design process.

And just imagine the problems that Dove Computer would have had in designing and making their clip-on RAM expansion board (MacSnap) for the 512K/512Ke if it were not so. Even so, it's quite a job to get the 2MB expansion card off one logic board for transfer to another. Is it also possible that more recent boards have had the luxury(?) of multilayer technology to get from point A to point B directly rather than via point Z?

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Your hypothetical scenario is really all for naught; if Apple had had the benefits of modern manufacturing processes in 1984, the 512K machine would have likely been significantly more than just a "Macintosh 512K". Wink

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The Macintosh is pretty old.

The Macintosh is pretty old. Most of it was made before 84, and even 83.

The Macintosh Plus is easier to duplicate than an Apple IIe.