Cold Boot Adapter....what?

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Cold Boot Adapter....what?

I do not remember this card, at all. Do any of you know its intended purpose?

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Yeah I have been watching it

Yeah I have been watching it/them also. So I am no Apple /// expert and IF I am wrong please let me know. But the onboard ROM/bios for the Apple III is super limited; it always need to boot from floppy to bot hardware/devices. It was NOT meant to boot a hard drive. The apple III does have a profile hard drive card... I have one. but supposedly it cant just boot up wihout the floppy disk and drivers. Supposedly the cold boot card would allow a system to boot up directly without the floppy drive being used.. Thats how I remember it anyway.

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Verault wrote:Yeah I have
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Yeah I have been watching it/them also. So I am no Apple /// expert and IF I am wrong please let me know. But the onboard ROM/bios for the Apple III is super limited; it always need to boot from floppy to bot hardware/devices. It was NOT meant to boot a hard drive. The apple III does have a profile hard drive card... I have one. but supposedly it cant just boot up without the floppy disk and dri

 

The part about not being able to boot from a ProFile is correct. you had to run the ProFile driver diskette, so aye, that'd make sense. 

 

The issue though, is that it is useless without the ROMs, documentation, and knowing what to do with the header.

 

Is that wired to connect to the ProFile 25 pin D-Sub? Is it for some magical mystery madness? I don't have any reference materials on it at all. It looks like a very simple device (logic side). Multiplexers, octal buffer, so it may have logic comparable to the ProFile controller with the aid of the boot ROMs, and the 26p header would work, but I wouldn't dare use this without knowing the exact pinouts. It's a shame that is is incomplete. 

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No I dont think its wires and

No I dont think its wires and I dont think It has anything to do with  the Profile Persei, I think you could boot a SCSI HDD as well, possibly a network share. But like you mentioned it needed the ROM configured correctly.

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There was a discussion on

There was a discussion on this board on the Apple /// FB group a little while ago. I think the consensus was that it would have given that function in an Apple II, and not the ///.

There was a couple of links posted,

This one has a picture, scroll down to find it:

http://www.pv-server.co.jp/preview/IIeCard.html?fbclid=IwAR2OLgtk9KY2oLLu4xJpyfmzOvPl3w-7jS2hc4ZNhzxMctRXYmMk-QvHaIE

 

And this one describe ICE Ltd harddisks, which seem like this card was for hooking up with:

https://archive.org/.../Add_to_your.../page/n13/mode/2up

 

/Rob

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Cold Boot Adapter ... and Ice Micro Cube Unit

Hello,

 

Here are my pictures about the cold Boot Adapter and his drive attached ; all these are  in an Apple IIe.

 

 

Software Related :

Package iconIce Micro Cube.Zip

 

Best Regards from France

PhilZ

 

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So here is my question. I see

So here is my question. I see people have gotten the booti working in the apple iii. Is it working without a boot rom or do you need to load drivers off floppy first?

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iatkos, is that little drive

iatkos, is that little drive an SD card reader? How'd you make the case?

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iatkos , Thanks for sharing

iatkos , Thanks for sharing those pictures and info, that was great to see them.

 

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Verault wrote:So here is my
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So here is my question. I see people have gotten the booti working in the appleiii. Is it working without a boot rom or do you need to load drivers off floppy first?

Verault, yes, to get the /// to boot from anything other that the internal floppy it needs an updated rom. The booting from the booti card you have seen would most likely have been using the updated ROM and SOS that I put together. Have a look here if you are interested for more info:

https://github.com/robjustice/soshdboot

 

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Thank you Rob, that is great

Thank you Rob, that is great to know. I may just install a Booti into my apple III. Could your ROM be modified so owners (like myself) of a profile /// card can auto-boot to a profile hard drive?

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Looks like the ROMs are

Looks like the ROMs are missing though.  Probably won't do much as-is.....

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yeah, but if it could be

yeah, but if it could be gotten at a good price (easier said than done) you can burn your own roms.

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Is there a dump of the ROMs?

Is there a dump of the ROMs?

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Sdisk II Card Case (v1)

Hello Tom,

 

This little drive is an Sdisk II card version 1 :-)

 

The 3D Printing case come from :

 

3D Case for the SDisk II version 1

 

This emulator in his first version isn't the best choice for me ( limited file type format - Nib --> to Nic conversion, only one file at once ).

 

I have CFFA v1.4, CFFA 3000, FloppyEmu A_B_C, wDrive, Booti card ; all these are the best Emulator choice for the Apple II.

 

If you are looking for an SD card reader case,  i can recommend this one ( Unidisk style - Good choice for an external case for the CFFA v.1.x card ) here is this one  :

 

3D Case for an SD card reader

 

Cheap Sd card reader

 

Cheap IDE cable

 

This is not very expensive. You have to get the 5v through the CFFA card from the IDE cable (pin20) and bring the 5v to the CF interface card.

 

All these informations come from a french guy on the Apple II France FaceBook Group :

 

Author of this Beautiful Unidisk SdCard 3D Case

 

Best regards from France.

PhilZ

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Tom Owad wrote:Is there a
Tom Owad wrote:

Is there a dump of the ROMs?

I doubt it. WOuld be nice to archive if they exist. 

 

I came across a similar card elesewhere that has only one ROM socket, rather than two, but otherwise has the same logic chips and connector, for another old MFM HDD on the Apple ][, so I have to say that this was indeed intended for the ][ and not the ///. I will likely link the auctioneer to this thread just to correct the description, if they want. IMO, this card is worthless without the ROMs and the HDD it is intended to drive. 

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Compact Flash reader - external case for the CFFA

oups sorry :-(

Not an SD interface but a Compact Flash interface for the CFFA card or other IDE cards.

PhilZ

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