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what am I doing wrong?!

ok, I was givin a copy of Mac OS X 10.2.3 (updates to 10.2.8 on another disk.) it's not a burned copy, but a retail copy on 3 CDs:

Install 1
Install 2
Applecare Support CD (with the updates).

ok, so here is what I do:

1. put the CD in the drive, and press C.
2. wait for it to boot up
3. select the hard drive (4.5gb Figustu), and format it to Mac OS extended.
4. select my packages.
5. install.
6. let it count down from 30 and restart.
7. now, on reboot, it shows the apple logo for 5 seconds, then I get (hard do describe) corrupted-ness across the screen in 2 places, so I can just bareley see it. here is what it looks like:
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sorry if it looks crappy, but that's the best I can do.

after this, if I reset it (control+function+shift+power), and turn it back on, I get the smiling mac, then it reboots (automatically), and then I get the flashing ? on the floppy disk.

not that this is what it does when I boot of the disk. it does a smiling mac, reboots, and then I get the apple with the spinny thing.

also note, that I have tried different combos of packages, from just the base install, all the way to the full thing.

is is a corrupted disk? because when I did this on my desktop, it kept droping into open firmware smack in the middle.

also, note that I am doing this on a 4gb HDD, though I have tried it on a 20gb,by partitioning one part as 1.5gb, and the rest as a seperate drive, and installing it on the 1.5gb partition. same thing.

oh, and how can I boot off burned CDs on the powerbook? I have tried both a Ubuntu live and Ubuntu install disk, they spin up, but then nothing.

SPEC TIME:

Powerbook G3 wallstreet
G3 750 @233mhz (one with 512kb cashe)
160mb ram (32mb in bottom, and 128 in the top).
4gb HDD
20x CD-ROM drive
battery
I think that's it.

last post of 2005!! happy new year!!

-digital Wink

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i was going to say it might b

i was going to say it might be a dead logic board but if it doesnt complete the boot up on the desktop i geuss it's not. can you see any scratches or anything on the cd, your cd-drive might have a dirty sensor causing disk errors. this happened when i was trying to install sim tower on my 6100 the program would start up but then freeze. your cd-drive might be faulty i have a friend whose imac would not boot of linux live CDs, and was iffy installing osx.

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Re: i was going to say it might b

i was going to say it might be a dead logic board but if it doesnt complete the boot up on the desktop i geuss it's not. can you see any scratches or anything on the cd, your cd-drive might have a dirty sensor causing disk errors. this happened when i was trying to install sim tower on my 6100 the program would start up but then freeze. your cd-drive might be faulty i have a friend whose imac would not boot of linux live CDs, and was iffy installing osx.

I might try cleaning the sensor on both drives, because the one in the tower (a samsung SM-308B CD-RW/DVD-ROM) hasnt been cleaned since I got it new. the CD has no scratches on it. when am I supposed to use Disk 2? it never asks for it.

it's not a dead LB, because I have Ubuntu 5.10 on the tower for now.

the disks are in immaculate condition, no scratches, smudges, or finger prints.

I hope it isnt a dead CD-ROm on the PB, because I just got it, and I really dont feel like investing more money in it. I just got am origonal restore disk for it with 8.1, so when it comes, I will give that a try.

actually, it isnt a Dead CD-ROM at all, because when I got it, it had a clean install of 9.0.4 on it.

dang, that means I need to go and get a CD cleaning device.

oh, if I do need to replace the CD drive, does the DVD-ROM read Cds? if so, I may as well get that with the decoder card.

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yeah the dvd-rom reads CDs, y

yeah the dvd-rom reads CDs, you only need the decoder card if your going to be watching movies

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I was under the impression th

I was under the impression that Mac OS X didn't run on older G3 Powerbooks such as the Kanga and Wallstreets. I had Jaguar on a 400 MHz Pismo and it ran quite well. I have had moderate success using Jaguar with a PowerComputing 300 MHz PPC but I wouldn't swear on it's reliablity.

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you might need xpostfacto to

you might need xpostfacto to run osx, the wallstreet isnt officialy supported by apple to run osx

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Not True!

I have jag running fine on a Wallstreet 233 w/ L2 cache. It installed fine with the normal retail CDs, no need for xpostfacto.

John

Oh, it runs great too, but the graphic effects arent 'great'

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only if you want to run panth

only if you want to run panther or tiger or higher.

according to apple-hisory, the wallstreet can run OS 8.1- OS X 10.2.8. it was the first powerbook to ofically run OS X.

I still havnt cleaned the drive out, but I will do so when I go out to get one of those cleaner things.

what else can I use besides the cleaner CDs? can I just use a blank CD-R and some solution of some sort? a home remidy kind of thing?

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scroll down on this page ther

scroll down on this page there it says to use distilled water http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_repair.shtml

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ideas

try booting back into OS 9, then back into OS X. That may fix the screen corruption.

oh, and how can I boot off burned CDs on the powerbook? I have tried both a Ubuntu live and Ubuntu install disk, they spin up, but then nothing.

Your CD drive may not be very good at reading CD-R disks. Older drives frequently have this problem. Cleaning the CD drive's lens may help, but don't count on it.

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but my 6100's apple 300i plus

but my 6100's apple 300i plus cd rom reads CD-Rs fine

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It depends highly on maker an

It depends highly on maker and model. I've got some Toshiba Sat. Pro laptops, of P1 vintage. One has a Toshiba 1202 2x CD-ROM. The other has a 1204 4x CD-ROM. The 2x hates almost all burned CDs, while the 1204 will read almost anything. They are a single model apart speed wise, and the computers are a single model apart too, by only 10MHz. If I swap drives, they still read the same in different machines, so it's the slightly older drive that has trouble.

It took me a while of playing with different media types to realize the difference. I pretty much use only very plain (and compatible) music CD-Rs with the old one. If I need to use a newer burned disc, I swap in the 4x module.

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Re: ideas

try booting back into OS 9, then back into OS X. That may fix the screen corruption.

oh, and how can I boot off burned CDs on the powerbook? I have tried both a Ubuntu live and Ubuntu install disk, they spin up, but then nothing.

Your CD drive may not be very good at reading CD-R disks. Older drives frequently have this problem. Cleaning the CD drive's lens may help, but don't count on it.

dan k

OS 9 is long gone. I opened netscape one day, it froze, then rebooted. upon rebot, I got the flashing ?.

however, I am geting a retail 9 disk from Iantm soon, along with panther. so, I will try that when they get here.

I just dropped a 20gb IBM travelstar in it, and am low level formating it now (for the last 2 hours.) I will try to install on that, and if I get the corruption again, I will try to take a pic of it. it is always the same, and it's not the LCD problem, as it also happens when the beast is hooked to my Dell ES-17 CRT.

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re: low level formating

I just dropped a 20gb IBM travelstar in it, and am low level formating it now (for the last 2 hours.)

I assume you mean you are zeroing the drive, not low level formatting it. Just want to clear that up for anyone who might be reading, ATA drives generally cannot be lowlevel formatted. Well, not on Macs, nor without special 'tools'. Unlike SCSI drives, ATA drives generally have their formatting done at the factory and cannot have the format tracks rewritten in the field.

Note that this applies generally to modern ATA drives, there are excepetions - some older drives (eg: 100MB, around that era or older) which could be field formatted.

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right, I was zeroing the driv

right, I was zeroing the drive. sorry, i forgot you cant low level the drive. I used to do that all the time to SCSI drives, and the terminology stuck around.

well, after I zeroed the drive, I let it install, it rebooted I got the Apple logo, then the same thing. It might be a bad disk, because I cleaned the lens of the drive.

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7. now, on reboot, it shows the apple logo for 5 seconds, then I get (hard do describe) corrupted-ness across the screen in 2 places
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Powerbook G3 wallstreet
G3 750 @233mhz (one with 512kb cashe)

FWIW I get the same thing on both of my wallstreets. Only once in a while can I get 10.2 to install on it without the corruption you're seeing. I have 10.2.0 on CD's and I also do the 10.2.8 upgrade. On one of my wallstreets, I could only upgrade to 10.2.4 anything later would corrupt it like that, and on my better one, I was actually able to get it up to 10.2.8 no problem after I finally got it installed. It drives me up the wall. I'm going to be doing XPF and just toss 10.3 or 10.4 on that way, hopefully it works.

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7. now, on reboot, it shows the apple logo for 5 seconds, then I get (hard do describe) corrupted-ness across the screen in 2 places
SPEC TIME:

Powerbook G3 wallstreet
G3 750 @233mhz (one with 512kb cashe)

FWIW I get the same thing on both of my wallstreets. Only once in a while can I get 10.2 to install on it without the corruption you're seeing. I have 10.2.0 on CD's and I also do the 10.2.8 upgrade. On one of my wallstreets, I could only upgrade to 10.2.4 anything later would corrupt it like that, and on my better one, I was actually able to get it up to 10.2.8 no problem after I finally got it installed. It drives me up the wall. I'm going to be doing XPF and just toss 10.3 or 10.4 on that way, hopefully it works.

your saying you get the same thing I get with 10.2.4 and higher, but the install 1 & 2 CDs I have are 10.2.3. the updates to 10.2.8 are on another CD.

I may do the same thing, just throw XPF on it and put 10.3 on it when panther and 9 get here. But then again, I just got an 8.1 restore CD for this thing, and I may just use that for the "stock" feel, but have 9 and panther on 2 other seperate partitions.

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Just curious ...

If I'm right, this might be helpful -- if I'm wrong, please educate me.

Some early G3s require OS X to be installed on teh first 8GB partition or a HD. Is this where you're trying to install? If not, have you tried it this way yet?

My Beige G3 and Strawberry iMac (trayloader) both gave me fits until I read about this on a forum somewhere (AppleFritter or Spymac or some other). Banged my head against them for DAYS.

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Re: Just curious ...

If I'm right, this might be helpful -- if I'm wrong, please educate me.

Some early G3s require OS X to be installed on teh first 8GB partition or a HD. Is this where you're trying to install? If not, have you tried it this way yet?

My Beige G3 and Strawberry iMac (trayloader) both gave me fits until I read about this on a forum somewhere (AppleFritter or Spymac or some other). Banged my head against them for DAYS.

your right. I set up the first partition as 1.5gb, as the OS X will be on a partition my it's self, and all my files on the remaining partition. however, it is being reall cranky, and even though I set the FIRST partition as less than 8gb, it still gives me a red ! over the hard drive. so, yeah. does it need to be EXACTLY 8gb, or can I just set it as a little less (or Just enough for the OS in my case)?

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try 7.5 gigs and put osx on t

try 7.5 gigs and put osx on that partition, use the rest for your files. Can you use xpostfacto with 10.2? xpostfacto gets rid of that limit

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Re: try 7.5 gigs and put osx on t

try 7.5 gigs and put osx on that partition, use the rest for your files. Can you use xpostfacto with 10.2? xpostfacto gets rid of that limit

I will try 7.5. I tryed 4.7, and got the same thing, and the other partiton wasnt mounted.

and, like I said, I cant use XPF 9yet) as OS 9 isnt there. I dont have a copy (yet). let me post when I get it, and we will go from there.

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UPDATE!!

just so you all know, I got the restore CD for my wallstreet. it installed and ran like a charm, and I have 18.6gb to play with. it's 8.1, so it was hard to finde a descent media player, but I found one. Quicktime 5.0.2 and Windows Media Player work as well. MS IE 5.1.7 is the best browser in my case. I hate IE on the windows platfrom, but on here, it's no so bad. netscape was crashing WAY too much, with alot of type 1, 2 and 3 errors. I will put 9 on it as soon as I can, but I decided to only take it as high as 9.2.2, as some of the nice fetures in 9 are no longer avalible in 10, such as the DVD decoder card wont work, and several other things. I may put 10 on it, but only on a seperate partition, and only to play around with. 9 will be the primary OS on the PB. I will use X as primary on my B&W tower.

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IT could be as simple as tryi

IT could be as simple as trying a diffrent hdd jummper setting most hdd are set to master unless you have 2 hdd's. but since you on a laptop i dont think you have 2 hdd's so the hdd will be set to master. im not for shure if a laptop hdd has a strap setting (AKA jummper setting). Or it can be as simple as not selecting the right partition and not useing OS 9.2.2 to format and partition the drive.

I would try Wamcom mozilla 1.3.1 if it would run on that version of OS cause it is way faster and dont show sites all screwed up like M$ IE for Mac does and wamcom mozilla is more compatable with secure sites than IE is

Once and if you can get OS X installed you can use safari wich is great

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