Revisions of revisions?

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Revisions of revisions?

Just a general interest question. Recently I learned that even within revisions of Apple II motherboard, there were sometimes mini revisions.. like the black slots on my Rev 04. I'm wondering if there are also notable changes with the other revisions that are of ajy significance? Thinking I might keep this Rev 04 board and start trying to collect all the variations I can.

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Falter,

The next thing is tilting at windmills. lol

If you start this, it shall drive you mad.
Take it from me...you will have stacks of these things looking for any little variation.
If you are married, your wife and children will become estranged.
You will be at the workbench with several different sizes of magnifying glasses.
You will become unkempt. Your hair and beard will grow long and shaggy.
your clothes will come apart at the seams because you never leave the chair.
You will wander the basement saying things like "My Precious".

STOP WHILE YOU STILL CAN!

Steven Smile

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Will you stop describing me that way!!!!

Cheers,
Corey

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Will you stop describing me that way!!!!

Cheers,
Corey

What!!!

I thought he was talking about me... Wink

I have my own such musings on Apple ][e's, I first posted it over there on....

I will start a post here and continue my Incessant Ramblings with these kind folks....

MarkO

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Falter,

The next thing is tilting at windmills. lol

If you start this, it shall drive you mad.
Take it from me...you will have stacks of these things looking for any little variation.
If you are married, your wife and children will become estranged.
You will be at the workbench with several different sizes of magnifying glasses.
You will become unkempt. Your hair and beard will grow long and shaggy.
your clothes will come apart at the seams because you never leave the chair.
You will wander the basement saying things like "My Precious".

STOP WHILE YOU STILL CAN!

Steven :)

LOL The greatest post of all time right here ^^^^^^^

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Corey, MarkO, and Transwarp,

Welcome to "The truth IS stranger than Fiction Department". lol

One of my passions happens to be Baseball Cards.
I have been collecting since 1990.
If any of you know what happened between 1989 and 1994,
then you will understand "Over-Production" and "Multiple Variations" of cards.
Topps was notorious for the variation dilemma.

I had to have them all!
It drove me crazy!
That's why I am the way I am today. Smile

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Haha!

Well.. I accept I'll never have them all.. A Rev 0 is probably never going to happen. And Rev 1 and 2 don't exist in public hands? But finding out Rev 04 had its own revisions got me curious. Suddenly I'm not in such a hurry to sell the one I have. Just wondering what else is potentially out there.

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Suddenly I'm not in such a hurry to sell the one I have. Just wondering what else is potentially out there.

Honestly the rev 4 you have is much more uncommon than the regular rev 4 with green slots. I don't think there is much of a value difference though.

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<< SNIP >>

I had to have them all!
It drove me crazy!
That's why I am the way I am today. :)

Well.... I think they have Medication for that... Of course, who would want to miss out on all that "fun".......

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Haha!

Well.. I accept I'll never have them all.. A Rev 0 is probably never going to happen. And Rev 1 and 2 don't exist in public hands? But finding out Rev 04 had its own revisions got me curious. Suddenly I'm not in such a hurry to sell the one I have. Just wondering what else is potentially out there.

I have an Apple ][ with a Rev-03, and an Apple ][+ with a Rev-01.. ( See Apple Stuff from 10+ years ago has been rediscovered )

The ][ boots, and runs, for a bit.. It needs cleaned up... ( See the Apple ][ Sync Test on Monitor /// )

The ][+ is missing a chip, and is very messy.. It should be Fully Cleaned before being powered up....

Someone here has a Rev-02 Motherboard.. Those seem to have been a very short run..

MarkO

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Cool! Well, I'll add those Revs to the list I hope to one day acquire. But I've never seen any for sale on ebay, except for a Rev 03 complete Apple II that went recently.

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If you start counting component variations, not just PCB variations, you might indeed need to reassess your sanity in a very short amount time. On the other hand, if you have the time and patience to understand and clearly document all the revisions that you can find out, about, you would likely become a hero among some of us Apple II devotees that have already gone nuts.

I was going to do this for the Apple 1, thinking it was possible with only 200 made in two batches and maybe 1/3 of that number still in circulation. I decided in the end, that it was too much effort. Seems like no two boards were the same because of repairs and changes made by various owners over time.

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Mike W.

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That's sort of my goal -- document and help others understand. This all started when I decided I had to have an original II in my collection, not realizing that there were so many variations of motherboard, keyboard, etc. When I jumped in, I assumed Apple II just ran integer basic and had the power button light. Little did I realize! But I've had a lot of fun researching what this A2S1 case I got was supposed to have and finding it and refining it down, bringing it back to life as what it was intended to be. It'd be kind of fun to document it all and then post a 'So you want to be an A2S1 owner?' to help others out. I had no idea there was this much variation, mixing and matching with II+, etc. And every time I think I've got it down I run across something that throws it all off. Really neat. Of course as a collector I'd love to own one of each. Smile

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Of course as a collector I'd love to own one of each. :)

The point, of course, is that to own one of each... you'd have to own just about all of them. Things didn't get really homogenous and easy(ier) to categorize until the IIe line, commensurate with more modern inventory management and production techniques that Apple picked up along the way.

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Haha. I think it's safe to say I'll never get there. But I would like to try and get one of each Revision and maybe if there were significant changes like color of slots, that too. But like I said, I doubt it'll be a problem. When was the last time a Rev 01 or 02 offered on Ebay?

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