Anyone with experience with this? It claims to work with a parallel card in the II series to send printed output over WiFi to a Mac or PC using a web interface, from which you can print from the Mac or PC.
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Yes, I've used it as a basic text output card.
Unfortunately there are a lot of potential snags, none of which are the fault of NEWPRINT itself. You can avoid most of the problems by using a second generation printer interface like Dumpling, Orange Interface, or Grafstar, and by choosing the Centronics interface instead of a 26-pin header.
Try to avoid using NEWPRINT with a Grappler+ if at all possible -- any other Grappler-branded interfaces will work, but Grappler+ poses a huge list of luck-of-the-draw problems. (The list of Grappler+ blunders is amusing, but maybe off-topic in a discussion of NEWPRINT.)
[BTW: I admit my last comment disagrees with the maker of NEWPRINT, who endorses using it with Grappler+ because he has devised workarounds for some of its issues. But I still recommend against a Grappler+ due to other risks it poses -- including a firmware bug that erases floppy diskettes, hopelessly-incompatible versions of the card, and an exploding chip if SW1 is used incorrectly]
Thanks. Interesting. The NEWPRINT website says Grappler+ or compaible. You mean a generic card would be better?
It's not simply a worse-or-better situation. If you have a Grappler+ that works with NEWPRINT, then it's your best choice. If you have a Grappler+ that doesn't work then there might be an easy way to make it work, or there might be a hard way to make it work, or it might be hopelessly incompatible incompatible -- depending on the luck of the draw!
I suggest you skim the Grappler vs Grappler+ thread, in which an AppleFritter user struggled through three Grappler+ cards trying to get them to work with his NEWPRINT device.
Most of the issues with Grappler+ are the result of bad design choices at Orange Micro, the maker of the Grappler series.
For more Grappler issues and workarounds, click the "A2 Notes" section on the NEWPRINT site.
Wow. So much for "+" usually meaning better. I really appreciate the effort you put into this post. I have nothing right now, and was looking to get a Grappler+/NEWPRINT combination to check this thing out. Not sure now if it will worth the possible trouble. I will check out that other thread. Thanks!
Hardware reviewer Aaron Filer concluded that if you like the features of the Grappler+ you should buy a Microtek Dumpling GX instead. (His 1984 book devotes half a page to complaints about Grappler+'s interrupt bugs.) This is the card I now use with NEWPRINT.
The Dumpling GX is pin-compatible with NEWPRINT at both the Centronics connector and the 26-pin header, so you can choose whichever hookup option fits your situation. If you get a Dumpling with its original Centronics cable, then order your NEWPRINT with a Centronics cable for maximum compatibility. If you get a Dumpling without a cable, then order your NEWPRINT with the 26-pin socket to attach directly to the card.
A minor complication is that some Dumpling GX cards are equipped with a 34-pin header instead of a 26-pin header. If you get one with the 34-pin connector, it will work with NEWPRINT's 26-pin ribbon cable, but it's more trouble because the connectors aren't the same size -- you need to align pin 1 at one end, leaving pins 27 through 34 unconnected at the other end.
A fringe benefit, Dumpling GX cards are usually cheap because it didn't have as much brand recognition as Grappler.
Here's are some other cards whose pinout appears to be compatible with NEWPRINT's 26-pin connector, but I haven't actually tested them:
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I have one of these cards. Connected to a Grappler Plus parallel printer card.
It works exactly as advertised, and can even output graphics from programs like The Print Shop.
I also like the fact that it has a power switch on the card itself so it doesn't have to be turned on all the time if you only use it occasionally like I do.
Am I correct that you an actually print (on paper) the output displayed on the NEWPRINT web interface? The manual does not directly speak to it.
Not really, no.
The web interface shows a simulation of output printed on your choice of simulated paper, but it doesn't offer any special features for printing it out onto physical paper. You can save the output into a file, or copy-paste it into another application -- so you could certainly use some other application to print the saved output.
Printing the output can be a little awkward, even for simple text documents, because NEWPRINT/Multi only has a 64K buffer. If you print a document longer than 64K, then you would need to incrementally save the contents of its print buffer before it overflows. For instance, below is a screencap of the NEWPRINT/Multi web interface after printing EDASM assembler output that overflowed the 64K buffer.
NEWPRINT listing sample 1.png
If you try to print directly from the browser, it will just print on one piece of paper, formatted as a web page with only the top lines of the printout. It doesn't matter where you scroll the printout, the browser only prints just the top of the printout.
NEWPRINT listing sample 2.png
So if I want to print onto paper, I will copy the output from NEWPRINT/Multi into some other program. The web interface is designed to simulate the appearance of an old-fashioned paper printout, but it isn't really suitable for printing on paper.
Yes. I see now. Thank you.