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Hi thee and thanx for your reply i have tried inserting the install disc before i boot up as well as after it has boot up but the same result occurs it just comes to the desktop with my mouse moving minus the icons and to answer the question about having installed any software im lead to beleive that my daughter inserted this music cd that comes with cereal packets somtimes and it sort of hasnt worked since then but if i insert the install cd before i boot up shouldnt it let me erase the hdd so i can install a new copy of OS x 10.2?

when my imac 400mhz boots up it says its loading apche web server and all the other stuff its always said but then it just sits at a desktop like state with no icons although my mouse still moves around.

Ok folks, here's what's been running through my head for the last while. You may have noticed that it's been almost one of those year things since we stopped producing The 'Fritter around here. I think we've probably all pronounced it dead and buried. I'm interested in starting up another similar project (probably hosted and operated outside of Applefritter), and I'm wondering if there's any sort of demand for yet another 'zine? If there is, what kind of material do you folks want to see more of?