my god where do they hire these people? they are mis-leading everyone in their teachings! im amazed people learn anything from listening to someone like this..... ive been sitting here for the past hour and ive noticed how very un professional she can be.... its really sad.... these poor people that have never used a computer before are in for a ride.....
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The only polite way to deal with the banality of basic computer classes is to make the teacher aware that you are familiar with computers and then become very passive indeed. However wrong what the teacher is saying may be, the other people are probably just as interested in the subject as the teacher is (not very), and to offer unsolicited corrections will only make you look bad.
yea im just gonna get through the 10 - 12 weeks of class, one night a week, so its not terrible. i dont wanna draw attention to myself thats for sure.
I went through this my first few semesters at a full University, after I had already gotten a 2 year degree at a college. I tried to limit myself to corrections that would adversely interfere with the other students ability to complete homework and test questions. The main class it happened in was an intro to programming (CS101), and I *know* the instructor would get a bit miffed if he got interrupted more than a few times per class, but I'd much rather a student miss a question due to their own mistakes than because of using faulty information from the instructor.
this class is computer applications 115, starts with the very basics of how to use a computer. i just couldnt believe how SHE was using the computer, i could see it on the projection screen....
I treasure the memory of the time I got into an argument with the professor teaching "CSI310 - Data Structures" in the middle of a lecture about recursion.
The professor was one of these C-Nazis who *love* making code as "elegant" and short as possible. (And rubbing his ability to do so in the students' faces) On the projector he was showing off his algorithm for adding decimal numbers of arbitrarily length. (The data structure in question was linked lists.) His code had a clumsy special case test in it after doing the addition for short-circuiting recursion if you ran out of digits in both input data structures but were left with a "carry" value. I just couldn't resist pointing out that he didn't need it, and could just things recurse one more time with input values of "nothing", "nothing", and "whatever's in the carry variable". The general-case "there's nothing left to do, return" test worked just fine for that.
He didn't take the observation gracefully. Suggesting there was five lines of code in his program that didn't need to be there was tantamount to saying "Your momma so fat". ;^)
--Peace
Haha. Coincidentally there is a "Yo mamma" thread going on over in my local LUG list, focusing on computer related "yo momma" one liners.
Over a decade ago, I took a Windows95 course. (Everyone at the firm was required to take the course.) Well before the class, I had been intensively using Windows95 beta and it's development environment (circa Feb 1995.)
In the class, I mentioned using the "Open containing folder" item to view a file (or files) in a window before opening. This comment was way over many peoples' heads, especially the trainer. I kept quiet from that point forward.
I assist people only if they ask for help. In teaching, I explain things in (non-technical) English without too many details unless asked. I let the student do everything, even though it is very tempting to "show" someone how to do something. I think we learn more by letting go of fear and jumping in, hands on. Mayhaps, we only learn from making mistakes.
I would spend a lot of time in class hacking, and programming. The teacher was impressed with the PowerPoint presentation I put together. I think I still have the Certificate from the course.
a few of the kids that were sitting near me caught on to my experience of XP when they saw me fiddling around with it for a while. they had questions and i quietly whispered things back and forth with them. one fellow classmate knows linux well enough that he could access his computer desktop from school, i was impressed by that.