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found something interesting. is it a real one or a clone?

the board doesnt say apple and yet. i find it strange someone would put in a clone board in a real apple 2 case

 

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thanks for your help in advance

 

 

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look under the unit for

look under the unit for serial number tag.

with the keyboard, motherboard and powersupply all being clone component, I am incline to think that it's a clone with II+ lid.

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jrme421 wrote:found something
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found something interesting. is it a real one or a clone?

 

Can you provide a better picture, where the entire motherboard can be seen and you can read the labels on the chips?

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apple clone?

I think this is what was known in Japan as a 'Japple clone'. The leaf on the Apple logo is pointing in the opposite direction than it does on a real Apple II.

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dorkbert wrote:look under the
dorkbert wrote:

look under the unit for serial number tag.

with the keyboard, motherboard and powersupply all being clone component, I am incline to think that it's a clone with II+ lid.

That's not an official Apple logo. Look closely!

 

Taiwan clone, I believe. Did they come out of Japan?

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rittwage wrote:dorkbert wrote
rittwage wrote:
dorkbert wrote:

look under the unit for serial number tag.

with the keyboard, motherboard and powersupply all being clone component, I am incline to think that it's a clone with II+ lid.

That's not an official Apple logo. Look closely!

 

Taiwan clone, I believe. Did they come out of Japan?

I've seen a few that said "Made in Japan", but most of them came from Taiwan or Hong Kong.  That one is very typical of the earlier units of this pattern.  Note 6 2716 EPROMs laid out like the ROMs on a ][+ -- not interchangable.  Somewhere on that board there is an inverter for the select lines.  Different power connector which is common.  Later ones had reduced chip count, often 3 2732 EPROMs or I've seen one with a 2764 and one 2716.  Most of these have a slightly different ROM image, usually they don't say "APPLE ][" on power up and usually they allow lower case input.  But many clone shops or owners burned their own copies of the Apple ROM for compatibility reasons.

 

 

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Intersting clone.  I haven't

Intersting clone.  I haven't seen one like this before.

It's not very well made - and doesn't have the chip part numbers on the silkscreen - only IC#s.

Also, I spotted a few Apple-branded RAM chips on it so over the years someone has done quite a bit of chip-swapping.

 

Anyway, if it works, use it!  I wonder what the bootup, power-on screen looks like.

 

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