Hello, new to the forum but thought this would be a better place to reach the right people. I've been collecting IIGS equipment for some years and purchased this system from a collector in Australia. It was inventory for a school system there that was placed in "quarantine", which I'm told just means held back from use. Anyway, the system is as clean as you'd expect a new system to be. The bag was opened to verify the battery was intact, and then carefully closed again, but the unit has not been powered on. Being an Australian unit, this requires 220V, via step-up power supply, or I also have a sealed NIB US power supply I could sell. I've since purchased a new US system from an Apple museum in Germany so decided to sell this unit. Would like to recoup the $2250 I put into it, plus shipping. Please reach out with any questions. Happy to send more photos or discuss privately.
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I love the Apple IIgs, but looking at the sold eBay listings it doesn't look like they are that valuable: click!
Feel free to not buy it if not interested. Those auctions are all used equipment. Naturally, a new item is more valuable.
Sure, maybe twice as valuable. But definitely not 10 times.
I also forgot to mention: if it has been in a box all these years, you should open it an make sure the battery hasn't leaked and damaged the motherboard.
As I said, feel free to not buy it. You've expressed your unique opinion and there's no need to trash someone else's thread just to mansplain on the Internet. I am sure I'm not the only one who would disagree with you. Have a nice day.
I don't think my opinion is unique and I am also sure I am not the only one who would disagree with you. However I would love to be proven wrong if someone can show me a similar Apple IIgs that sold for over 2 grand.
I never said I wanted to buy it. I simply said that I love the Apple IIgs, so I am not sure why you keep telling me to feel free not to buy it - everyone is free not to buy it by default. This is a public forum and people here usually help each other with whatever they can contribute. This includes advice on what to look for when buying a new Apple IIgs from someone.
You're not contributing anything to trolling on someone's thread. You're just being obnoxious now.
That is not trolling. I simply made a point about the price and it was backed by actual data. Also this is a public thread and everyone is free to participate.
Perhaps you should read the rules then. It's in fact not a public free for all. I won't respond further. Stop trolling.
It doesn't make it trolling simply because you don't like to hear that the price you are asking for is unrealistic. There is no rule that says that you should not comment on the price of an item offered for sale or present supporting data.
Hi CTV, I just wanted to chime in and say that i can understand your stance for trying to help someone to have a 'realistic' expectation but at the same time I think that just one post about your opinion might be enough. You don't need to hammer your view down in a series of back and forth messages. I myself tend to value some items more than others despite the actual 'worth' someone else would pay for it. Especially when a collector and ethusiast has followed the hobby since many years or even decades, the perception of worth might be skwed (a lot) when it comes to hardware that they know very well. The seller might be able to sell at their requested value or maybe not. We cannot fathom the potential buyers thoughts or expectations. You can be lucky to find the perfect opportunity and some TV-production company needs the original in package computer for an episode of "Stranger Things" or something. Maybe a Youtuber (who can deduct the cost from taxes as business expenditure) wants to buy that computer for a unpackage video ... i think you catch my drift.
For example, i personally cannot see any worth in a 486 and Pentium machine since i trashed hundreds of them when i worked in 1st level support at an it-department in the late 90s. But other people pay $300 for a dual Pentium 3 Mainboard with leaking caps. There is no actual worth or 'real' price since it is all dependant on perception.
flash_shift has stated that he is new to the forum:
Please don't make it unnecessary hard for flash_shift to be part of the community. I would not take your comments personally but others would potentially see them as a kind of rejection. We all need time to aclimate into a community and sometimes a series of comments like yours may be hard to swallow for someone new. I think it was not your intention to be negative but to help and be supportive.
@flash_shift: Please remove the Battery! Even a visually good battery can gas out and corrode parts.
The only way to keep the computer safe in storage is by removing the battery!
Just my 2c.
It would have been just one post from me, if the author did not take my opinion personally and accuse me of trolling. I am not here to stop anyone from being part of this community, I simply maintained that it's OK for someone to comment on the price of an item for sale. My following posts were mostly about that and I have nothing personal against the seller.
Also when I was talking about helping people with a new Apple IIgs, I was more concerned about someone unknowingly buying a largely overpriced item, not selling one.
Your intention was seemingly not registered by the seller, maybe because of your wording or some other 'between the lines'-things (i am a bit blind to this stuff myself). I know where you come from and i might have reacted the same way when i would be accused of trolling. As a new forum-member, flash_shift might not have anticipated such comments in the open and direct way we take for granted here. I think of Applefritter as one of the last bastions of the old guard in regards to vintage technology on the net. I like it here because the forum-members are some of the best people to ask when it comes to problems with the Apple II and Macintosh. Even if the words might become a bit rough in heated discussions, i know that noone would actively try to create drama.
Lets just leave things be and hope that flash_shift can recoup his expenses.
I agree that the price is ridiculous. And we have only the poster's word for what "Quarantine Stock" means. Personally, I would prefer to puchase a unit that I know is in working condition. I know, I know, he'll tell me I'm free not to buy it. :-) With a certain ilk now any disagreement is taken as an attack.
I used to try to help people when they had items listed too high or incorrectly, but they often seemed to get irritated with me, so I stopped doing it unless someone specifically asked for help. There are a ton of things on eBay listed at prices that will never sell, and that makes everyone else think they can sell their item at that same price—which, in my opinion, is why eBay is no longer a great platform for buying vintage Apple gear.
Don’t get me wrong—I benefited from this once when someone sold a UniDisk 3.5 for $500 and actually got that price. I quickly listed one of mine at the same price and also sold it. (A crazy price.) It took almost a year before prices came back down to a more reasonable range.
All that said, people should list items for what they think or hope they can get. The market will ultimately dictate the price, and if it’s too high and doesn’t sell, you can always lower it.
My only concern here is the same one everyone else has mentioned. If I bought this at that price and then opened it only to find the battery had exploded all over the motherboard, I would want some money back. Since the box has already been opened, I would definitely check that.
My 2 Cents too. :-)
I'm reluctantly putting my oar in, too: I'm not the target market for this kind of item (no real interest in NOS or "dead stock" computers), but I honestly don't know if the asked price is too high, or not. It's very hard to judge when it comes to the items you might only see once in a lifetime in that condition. For example, a new-old-stock Mac IIfx with matching NOS high-resolution RGB monitor and NOS LaserWriter II was bought four years ago by a member here. I don't know what he paid, but this kind of time capsule straight out of 1990 doesn't exactly grow on trees. You won't find any information on what it's worth from eBay because there just aren't any examples. For what it's worth, he unboxed them straightaway and started using them, destroying any "dead stock" aura they might have.
A lot of negative comments about prices reek of sour grapes, as in the Æsop story of the fox and the grapes. For whatever deep-seated psychological reason, some collectors are triggered by seeing items they can't afford. Of course this makes no more sense than collecting the same item in different colors, but collecting has never really made logical sense anyway. It's all emotional at some level.
What I think is a real problem are the pickers and re-sellers who became convinced that selling old junk to computer collectors would fund their retirement. You can tell this type because they have items up for sale at "optimistic" prices for years, raising them even further when they don't sell (and each question received means the price just went up again). "I know what I have" seem to be their favorite words. They appear to have lately discovered the VCFED forum; I don't see any on this site.
I think it could fetch the asking price, mint condition always demands a high price, just a matter of reaching the right kind of buyer.
Item is now sold. RE: Battery, have chatted about this with a few engineer friends at the fruit company that argue the battery would be in a form of stasis until it is first powered up, and the likelihood of a machine in "new" condition leaking, regardless of age, is infinitesimally small. Thanks anyway for the cold welcome and crapping all over my thread. I'll be going now.