safe mode won't boot

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safe mode won't boot

Hello all,
I am having window freeze problems with my G4, MDD and want to boot up in safe mode to run fsck -y.

Refuses to happen. I hold the shift key just like the apple doc says to - have tried three, maybe four times now, no go.

Prior to this, software update quit unexpectedly, dvd player did the same, and in general for three days now, I can only get about 20 minutes of run time before open windows freeze in place and only the mouse works. well, it travels but causes nothing to happen no matter how much I click.

So how do i force a safe mode start?

Thanks
Amy

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os x 10.3.3

os x 10.3.3

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Same Here

I had this problem too. I was having strange problems and tried to boot into safe mode, and it wouldn't work.

Instead I booted into open firmware and ran fsck from there. Worked fine.

Google for - "OS X" "open firmware" fsck - and you'll find pages that give step by step instructions.

Good luck!

Best,
Matt

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partial success

your suggestion worked after I took the keyboard off the usb hub, SORT OF, in that I expected to see the terminal window pop up. But the tablet driver is frozen and I now will do the horrid hard power off.

Why can't I just open terminal and run fsck -y from there? Do I have to do it from a safe mode boot?

all comments and suggestions welcome

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First off...

Definitely unhook any USB hubs and nonessential peripherals. I can't tell from your post if you've still go a tablet hooked up, or if you're just talking about the tablet's driver. But if the tablet is still hooked up, disconnect it.

The reason one can't just run fsck from a Terminal window is that fsck can't repair the disk when it's mounted normally (i.e. available to the OS in a way that lets you use the computer normally). I'm far from a Unix expert, but my understanding is that the disk has to be mounted in read-only mode, so fsck is the only process that's accessing the information on the disk -- otherwise files could change while fsck is trying to read and repair them--disaster!

So you have to boot in safe mode, or do the command-line equivalent by booting to open firmware.

Hopefully someone else with more knowledge will take over now - sorry I can't be of more help!

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apple cares

Hi and thanks - just got off with Apple care, am dispatched to get an Apple mouse in order to rule out any third party problem.

Apple had me use the installer disk to run Disk Utility - three times for Repair Disk and one time for Repair Disk Permissions. Once we quit the installer and it rebooted then we hit a wall as the Wacom Tablet pen booted up frozen (again, happens 1 in 20 times ever since i got it).

I have a case number and must call back once I have an Apple mouse, so they can hold my hand as we will throw out some cache files.

Concensus is definately that fooling in Terminal probably caused all the problems. Which risk I guess all good Fritters know about, even me.....

thanks again and I will post any helpful tidbits that come out of the eventual (i trust) recovery process.

Amy

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