Fastchip conflict with mouse card.

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Fastchip conflict with mouse card.

I have a Platinum IIe with mouse card and AE RAMWORKS 1MB. I run the Airheart demo with the Fastchip (RAMWORKS OFF). After several minutes, regardless of speed, the system freezes. Without mouse card and/or with internal 448KB RAMWORKS ON, the demo runs continuously.

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When this happens is the

When this happens is the mouse plugged in to its card?

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I also tried it with another

I also tried it with another mouse card, even without mouse plugged in. I also replaced the motherboard with another Platinum board and got the same result.

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I have the same hardware but

I have the same hardware but not that software

Is the demo available to download somewhere?

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Testing with A2desktop v1.2

Testing with A2desktop v1.2 and CFFA:
5-10 min playing around with folders in desk.acc (control panel, this apple, etc.) the system also freezes.

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Air heart is a double hires

Air heart is a double hires game. It requires 128K. The demo runs automatically.
Asimov:
ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II//images/games/action/airheart/ai...

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I have replicated this issue

I have replicated this issue with the TotalReplay 5 release. The text splash screen hangs during startup most of the time, but I did get past that once with TR 5a3 but then Airheart didn't load. I have raised it with the TR team as they potentially have the ability to investigate this further. My guess is a badly handled interupt.

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Has anyone reached out to

Has anyone reached out to Plamen?

I have a similar configuration (Platinum //e, mouse card, FastChip..) I'll run some more tests. 

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I've found that the mouse

I've found that the mouse card does not like the FastChip IIe.

It also does not like the Yellowstone card.

I tried this configuration with A2Desktop, which would have been brilliant on an accelerated IIe with a smartport hard drive using the Yellowstone card and a Floppy Emu.

 

Sadly that combination is no good...

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Mouse II card

A crazy historical anecdote about the Mouse II card:

https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Apple_II_Mouse_Card.txt

The comments about the production card having "over a dozen chips" seem to be erroneous: the Mouse II card contains a 'LS74 dual flip flop, a 16Kbit EPROM with Apple II firmware, a 74HC245 bus transceiver, a PAL16R4, a 6521 PIA, and a 6805 microcontroller.

Most likely the need for precise timing loops when servicing mouse interrupts is the reason it doesn't work with accelerators.

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robespierre wrote:...The
robespierre wrote:

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The comments about the production card having "over a dozen chips" seem to be erroneous: the Mouse II card contains a 'LS74 dual flip flop, a 16Kbit EPROM with Apple II firmware, a 74HC245 bus transceiver, a PAL16R4, a 6521 PIA, and a 6805 microcontroller.

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He never said that the production card had over a dozen chips. Most likely the prototype did, but for the production they were replaced with the PAL.

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robespierre wrote:A crazy
robespierre wrote:

A crazy historical anecdote about the Mouse II card:

https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Apple_II_Mouse_Card.txt

The comments about the production card having "over a dozen chips" seem to be erroneous: the Mouse II card contains a 'LS74 dual flip flop, a 16Kbit EPROM with Apple II firmware, a 74HC245 bus transceiver, a PAL16R4, a 6521 PIA, and a 6805 mi

 

The Apple II Mouse Interface does work with some accellerators.  Back in the day I used one in a machine with a Transwarp and a Titan Accellerator //e at various times.  I'm pretty sure people also used them with McT SpeedDemon and Zip chips.  I've noticed that the FastChip //e is faster than most vintage cards but not quite as compatible as some of them.  But some things just don't work on a machine over 1 MHz.  Alas.

 

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I am sorry to say that but

I am sorry to say that but the FastChip is full of bugs and incompatibilities and noone is fixing them...

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