I just found out MSN blocks port 25 for "Spam Protection"... ::) does anyone know of an open relay running on port 587 or something like that? I'm trying to get my RedHat 9 box online and it's awfully hard to send e-mails w/out any port 25 access. BTW... I tried SMTP.email.msn.com... It just kicked me off with a warning saying something like "MSN SMTP access is only avalable for our customers who haven't upgraded to MSN 6 or above"