Recommendation for SCSI to USB connector for old G3 (9600/200 beige box) w/ OS 9.1

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Recommendation for SCSI to USB connector for old G3 (9600/200 beige box) w/ OS 9.1

I'm looking for a SCSI to USB connector that will work on this computer. G3 has an Adaptec SCSI card.
I want to export files from G3 to outboard HD.

I've read the discussions about OS X and gotten some info pertinent to my situation.
Issues at hand:
1) OS compatibility
2) need for a power supply
3) need for drivers
4) SCSI connector format: 25pin or 50pin; male or female?

The Microtech XpressSCSI unit seems to be popular and may be workable for this G3 (?).
The Belkin F5U115-UNV has "termpower," which apparently eliminates the need for an outboard power supply.

Does anyone have recommendations for the G3 and the application?

Thanks very much.

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What's the need for USB? If

What's the need for USB? If you need USB, put in a USB card. If you need a SCSI drive, use the SCSI port. I see no reason that you need a USB SCSI adapter to put files on an external drive.

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SCSI USB

I'm not as computer savvy as I should be. I was not aware that a USB card was available for this computer. None of my "Smart" friends mentioned the possibility.
If there is such an animal, then I can very easily go via USB to an outboard USB hard drive, I would think.
Thank you very much for your help.

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Second that

Jon wrote:
What's the need for USB? If you need USB, put in a USB card. If you need a SCSI drive, use the SCSI port. I see no reason that you need a USB SCSI adapter to put files on an external drive.

"I agree with this post". ;^)

From the reading of the OP it seems like you're asking for some sort of adapter to put on the Mac's SCSI port so you can attach a USB external hard drive. There's no such animal. The USB-SCSI adapters listed are for connecting SCSI drives/devices to USB ports. (And won't work in reverse.)

If you're dealing with a USB external drive you need a PCI USB card. Any of the various Mac dealers can sell you one. Just beware that OS 9 only supports USB 1.1 speeds. (Even on USB 2.0 cards which are listed as "OS 9 compatible".)

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SCSI USB

WOW! Thanks. Now I think I understand the source of my confusion here ... and your solution is excellent.
Again, thank you.

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Let's get educated

You have a curious post. A 9600/200 is not a G3 unless someone has upgraded the processor daughter card to a G3 card (made by Sonnet, Newertech, XLR8, etc.). The 9600 was the last of the pre-G3 PowerPC Macs. Or you could be saying you've got a 9600 box with a G3 motherboard inside, which would require a lot of modifications to the 9600 box, including a different power supply. So I'm assuming it's a 9600/200.

Your intent is to get data off the 9600's SCSI hard drive, correct? Are you simply trying to get data from the 9600 to an external USB hard drive, or are you trying somehow to get the data from the 9600 to another computer, thinking you'd do it via the external hard drive?

If you are trying to get data to another computer, the simplest way to do that is to hook the two computers together via an ethernet cable and simply do a file sharing.

If your intent is to simply get it to an external USB hard drive, which I would guess is USB 2 capable, yes, you could get a PCI USB card and transfer files over the very slow USB 1.1 connection.

A better way to go would be via Firewire, and you might want to check if your USB hard drive also has Firewire--a few models do. OS 9 can do Firewire 400 at full speed. If the external drive can do firewire, then instead of a USB card, you could get a firewire PCI card, or a USB/Firewire combo card.

If you're only trying to get the data to an external HD, and don't want to spend money, and do have access to a second computer, depending on whether the second computer's internal hard drive connection matches the type of hard drive that's in the external USB case (PATA or SATA), you could simply remove the hard drive from the external USB enclosure, put it in the second computer (most likely as a slave drive), and then hook the two computers up via an ethernet cable and transfer the files to the USB hard drive that way.

The ethernet port on the 9600 is only 10BaseT, but I suspect it's probably faster than USB 1.1. I myself learned about the different external bus speeds in this thread I started a while ago:

http://www.applefritter.com/node/21240

You'll get a lot of good education from that thread provided by the genius regulars who hang out at Applefritter.

Now for yours and my education both, I pose the simple question to those generous and always helpful digital geniuses, is 10BaseT faster than USB 1.1?

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Silly me

So after I made this last post I went to take a shower, and while I'm rubbing the shampoo into my hair, suddenly it occurs to me--what the hell did I just say? Take the hard drive out of the USB case and put it into the second computer? How ridiculous. Just hook the USB drive to the second computer and use the second computer as a go between via ethernet.

So you see, I also have the knack of making things a lot more confusing than they have to be. It's a malady common to many of us novices. Luckily, I was able to finish my shower in time to get back here before someone else called me an idiot. I'll do that myself, thank you.

So, 10BaseT or USB 1.1. Which is faster?

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I think USB 1.1 is *theoretic

I think USB 1.1 is *theoretically* 1 megabit/second faster than 10baseT. In practical use, there is probably not much of a difference.

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