Mac SE Software Installation Issues and Memory Issues

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Mac SE Software Installation Issues and Memory Issues

I am attempting to install a few games onto my Mac SE, but any time I try to install or use a game with more than one disk, it doesn't work. For examplr, when I try to install Might and Magic, after it installs everything off of the Install disk, it asks for Data Disk 1. When I insert this disk, it spits it back out and asks for it again? Does anybody know why this is happening?

Also, my SE has 4 mb of RAM installed, but it only sees 1mb. Anybody know why?

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Stupid questions first. Is the Data Disk 1 marked as such? Is it actually the disk? Does it work in a similar Mac? The SE does this with all 2 floppy installs? How did you install the OS?

The SE only "sees" 1MB. Does that mean when you look at "about this Mac" it says 4MB or 1MB? If it says 1MB then you have 4 256k chips in there.

Hate to be so nit-picky but it is a computer.

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And, IIRC the Se does require

And, IIRC the Se does require a small hardware mod to see the 4 megs if you really do have them in there. There should be a resistor labeled 256K/1MB near the RAM slots. If both ends of the resistor are still connected it is set for 256K SIMMs. If one end is cut/ desoldered then it is set for 1MB SIMMs. I could be wrong in remembering what to do, but I think that is right. My first 4 Macs were SEs... Smile

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RAM mod

Hey,

Right mod, wrong Mac. That resistor snipping is for upgrading the Mac Plus to 4MB.

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1: Data Disk 1 is marked as s

1: Data Disk 1 is marked as such
2: I'd assume it was the disk, since it is marked as such.
3: My Brother was able to install it on his classic
4: The other 2 floppy game i've tried is Falcon 2.0, and when it prompts for disk 2, I insert it, and it freezes up
5: I actually didn't install the OS, it came with 6.0.2 on it
6: It says 1024k. I was under the impression that the SE only accepted 1mb modules. Thats good, because I ordered 4mb. When I opened it, I saw 4 modules and thought it had 4mb installed.

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Re: And, IIRC the Se does require

And, IIRC the Se does require a small hardware mod to see the 4 megs if you really do have them in there. There should be a resistor labeled 256K/1MB near the RAM slots. If both ends of the resistor are still connected it is set for 256K SIMMs. If one end is cut/ desoldered then it is set for 1MB SIMMs. I could be wrong in remembering what to do, but I think that is right. My first 4 Macs were SEs... :)

The service manual I downloaded says that you will either have a pair of resistors or a jumper. As I posted just above, I thought it had 4mb already, so I assumed that someone had done the mod, as I didn't see a jumper.

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Ooooooops . . .

Hey,

I was wrong. I just checked with the service manual. I suck. I have no idea why you people put up with me.

My bad . . .

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W, we put up with you because

W, we put up with you because you write great stories. Smile

As for the SE, the resistors should be just on the otherside of the SIMM s from the edge, and about where the brightness knob is, IIRC. There should be a silk screened label by them.

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Memory works, still no joy with games

Alright, I got my SE up to 4mb, but still no joy with installing games. Any thoughts on this subject?

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Re: Memory works, still no joy with games

... but still no joy with installing games. Any thoughts on this subject?

You mentioned successful installation of Might & Magic. Was this, and are the other games that you wish to install, on original 800kB floppies? You haven't mentioned a HDD in the machine, nor that you have an FDHD model of SE. It seems likely, therefore, that you have a dual 800kB machine. Any 1.44MB floppies fed to it will definitely be spat out. Is that the case with your Data Disk 1? If you are running 6.0.2, the Mac probably doesn't give you a 'That tasted vile' window because 1.44MB floppies didn't exist when 6.0.2 was King.

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My Mac has a 20mb Hard Drive

My Mac has a 20mb Hard Drive and a single 800k floppy drive. All the games I am trying to install are 800k floppies, and I would assume that since the Data Disks dont have the HD logos in the corner, that they are also 800k floppies.

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Maybe try a different way. Ho

Maybe try a different way. How about using DiskDup+ to make a disk image of the disk onto the hard drive. After its done, mount it with DiskDup+ to see if the software will install.

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