Jaguar Installer keeps locking up-Please help

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Jaguar Installer keeps locking up-Please help

Hi,

I am pulling my hair out of this installation. I have an iMac 333mhz with a 60GB Maxtor 7200 and 384 megs of ram.

The firmware is up to date with version 1.2 (reads 3.0 something in ASP).

All day I have been trying to load OS X Jaguar 10.2 and the installer locks up at different places. Mouse won't move etc and I have to use the paper clip to start over.

I have erased and partition the drive many times (with a 7.8GB as the boot partition).

I have remove the 256mb chip and put back in my 128 and tried that and its the same thing.

I have been Googling for hours off and on and found nothing pertinent except "open firmware". I typed reset-all and it looked like that was going to work and the installer just froze again.

Any ideas...before my blood pressure blows.

Thanks.

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do you got the hdd strap set

do you got the hdd strap "AKA hdd jumper setting" set right is it set to single master or master/slave cofig ???. try the single master config go here to see what the settings you can use go here hdd strap settings or here they have 2 other drive types to look at what and how to set there hdd jumpers that could be what it is or could be bad ram or just not likeing osx . I used the single/master hdd setting mine is a 10 pin western digital yours could be diffrent or a diffrent brand of hdd it could work but i dunno. go into open firmware see if it will take the command init-nvram it will say ok if it does accept the command if not use reset-nvram press enter type set-defaults press enter then type reset-all press enter this will cause your system to accept the changes and it will restart then reset pram threw 3-4 start sounds then boot into the installer do a erase and install format it in hfs +

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Customize install

I'd probably first try doing a basic install rather than the full install. When you reach the last window before installing, there'll be a button that says "custom" or something like that at the bottom. Click on that and then you'll get a window with install options, so just choose the basic system and maybe the BSD subsystem installation, but click off all the foreign language stuff, etc. that you don't really need. When you click on any of the options, I think it tells you at the bottom what that option provides.

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Jaguar Installer Freezing

as per Madmax_2069, the drive has the first jumpers blocked for "master".

I tried all the open firmware codes you mentioned...didn't work.

as per Hawaii Cruiser, I am trying to load the basic OS X (plus the BSD subsystem), no apps or languages...didn't work either.

Other stuff I tried:

My pram battery was very low, bought a new one...still freezes

Trying two different NEW drives (both Maxtor, both set to Master)...still freezes

Installing basic OS X system...still freezes

Open Firmware various resets....still freezes

Swapped 4 different ram sticks (most of them CL2)...still freezes

OS X SAFE BOOT....froze at the desktop!

I almost got to the desktop with a 100mhz ram stick and 90% through the registration process it froze once again!!!

MaxTek...Still need help!

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What does work?

Have you tried starting up from an OS 9 install disk or a Utilities disk? I always keep a burned copy of a whole OS 9 HD with utility programs on a CD-R to use for rescue and fixing problems. I would normally startup from it and cleanup the harddrive as much as possible before attempting to install OS X. Sounds more like a hardware problem. Maybe a bad CD drive or the jumpers on the CD drive aren't correllating with the HD? Does the CD drive on iMacs have jumpers, I don't remember? Check to make sure there are no cuts or breaks on any of the cables. Do you have a clean OS 9 system on a HD? Maybe just try disconnecting the CD drive and see if the machine starts up from an OS 9 HD?
Do the 333mhz models require Xpostfacto for Jaguar installation?
Failing all this, I'd begin to suspect the motherboard. Sounds like you've tried almost everything else.

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Jaguar freezing/crashing on iMac 333mhz

The drive is a fresh drive with a fresh install of OS 9 as well. I did that before I tried to install Jaguar. It went without a hitch. Right now it is booted into 9 and runs flawlessly.

I went to my cousins house (cable modem) to download the Combo update 10.2.8, hoping that would solve things but it froze while the update was loading and now all I get is the gray screen/apple logo/spinning cursor.

You don't need xpostfacto for a 333mhz iMac. I have been googling all day and I have found remnants leading to my ram sticks. The way it crashes at any old time leads me to believe they are the culprit.

I have found two ram sellers that have contradicting information. Does anyone know the exact type of ram I need to buy for an iMac 333mhz trayloader?

very, very frustrated...

MaxTek

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I'd go with the RAM. If I re

I'd go with the RAM. If I recall, which I may not, that model should use PC100, though a lot of folks will put in 133 since it works fine usually. I have had installs die because of 133 RAM that works just fine once the install is done. Also, OS 9 seems to have better tolerances towards old RAM. I don't know why, but of all the old iMacs that hit my bench, only a few had issues with 133 on reinstall.

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yea id go with the pc100 sdra

yea id go with the pc100 sdram could be cause the type of ram like non ecc or non registered or see if your imac has any kind of problems with diffrent kinds of ram .cause there is diffrent kinds of pc100 are they mixed,is it overclocked have you tryed holding the cuda or pmu button for 10-15 seconds if it has one every time you change somthing always reset the pram . if none of thes works is there any firmware updates you need to put on it before you install is the vram maxed out. you just might want to try to go the xpostfacto4 route if all else fails. yea i know that osx supports the imac but you just might be a special case hell i dunno. if nothing works it could be a logic board problem if nothing works just a thought

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8ns SDRAM

I've heard that OS X prefers SDRAM that is 8ns or faster.

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IIRC the specs Intel set for

IIRC the specs Intel set for PC-100 call for 8ns RAM, even though PC-100 runs at 10ns. That is supposed to give leeway for timing issues. Cheaper PC-100 may be at 10ns, and higher quality may be at 8ns. I read this in Shriers "Upgrading and Repairing PCs (11th ed)". I could have the timing off from 12ns and 10ns...

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PC100 8ns RAM for iMac 333mhz-where to buy

I have been on and off the ram seeking website and can't find 8ns ram for the iMac 333mhz. Has anyone found it/bought it? I am still having problems with the Jaguar install and it has to be the ram it has in it. I have no problem buying new but what to buy the correct chips.

Thanks, MaxTek

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ok try here http://eshop.macs

ok try here http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Item.cfm?ID=2541&Item=OWC100SD256168

this should be what you need

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