Macintosh Plus system floppy

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Macintosh Plus system floppy

Hello there !

I am cumfortable with old electronics, os65, cpm, msdos, windows and linux but not at all with macos !

I own a Macintosh Plus (refurb in progress) and a working SE/30 with floppy, internal hdd, external hd and external cdrom reader...

The Plus was salvaged from the recycling center and the SE/30 came from the attic of my uncle.

I want made a full set of system disks (800k floppies ?) for the Macintosh Plus.

The questions :

- Any link describing the process to do that from the internet to 800 k real floppies ?

- What image(s) should I use ? How many floppies was delivered with a new Macintosh Plus ?

I read version 6 is the best.

If I want a french version of this os should I download a precise image or are all the langages embeded in one image. My Macintosh Plus keyborad is azerty...

Thanks for the advices.

Regards.Philippe

 

 

 

 

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You are "cumfortable"?  If

You are "cumfortable"?

 

 

If you dont have another working older mac to make floppies I dont see any real easy method for you other than asking someone here to make them or buying them on eBay or another site.

I would recommend 6.0.8 for your Plus. 

 

French version.. See now you are just asking for the world.  I suppose I would reach out to a French Apple Group for that one.

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Maybe someone in Quebec or

Maybe someone in Quebec or even more remote of a possibility New Orleans might have a French version?

 

 

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eBay set of 4 System 6.08 on 800K floppies

https://www.ebay.com/itm/153899232038?hash=item23d51beb26:g:mJAAAOSw1W5ekhUl

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Hey Michael. Maybe next time

Hey Michael. Maybe next time just address any thoughts or concerns you have for my post right here in the thread. We are all adults here.. I hope.

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Social Media

I grew up in a generation where the only social media was ham radio.

Irrespective of adulthood or not, I have learned that not every one of my grand pronouncements needs to be shared publicly.

Some thoughts are best addressed privately.

PS: Philipe confirmed for me that English is not his first language.

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Social media is a misnomer.

Social media is a misnomer. There is nothing social about it. I dont use it nor do I have a need for it. When I grew up people still talked to each other face to face... They were "social".

 

 

Phillipe hasnt messaged back. Cant he just purchase those 6.0.8 floppies and change the language durring or after the install?

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This board IS social media...

I purchased the 2 floppy set of  1.4 MB floppies from the same vendor after I purchased my recapped Mac SE/30, as well as some other Apple system floppies, from the same vendor, so I can vouch for him!

I do not recall if there is a language choice on System 6; I believe they come with only one language

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Getting disk images and making floppies

The SE/30 has a 1.44MB SuperDrive, so it can read and write floppies created on newer Macs or PCs, and it can also read and write older 400K or 800K floppies needed for older Macs like the Plus. You can download the 800K System 6 floppy disk images on a modern computer, copy the disk images onto 1.44MB floppy disks, get them over to the SE/30's hard drive, and from there use Disk Copy to write those disk images to 800K floppy disks that you can use on the Plus. Or since you have a CD-ROM drive on the SE/30, you could burn a CD-R of the installer images on a modern computer and read it on the SE/30.

Apple makes older OS software available for download on their web site. Unfortunately they no longer serve the directory indexes which makes it difficult to find the files unless you remember where they are. Fortunately others, including Apple Fritter, have mirrored the content and do serve directory indexes:

http://download.info.applefritter.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/

The 800K System 6 installer floppy images for North American English are here:

http://download.info.applefritter.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_6.0.x/

Make sure to get the four images whose names start with "SSW_6.0.8-800k" if you want to make 800K floppies.

Since you have both an internal and external hard drive for the SE/30, consider using the external on the Plus instead, since it probably doesn't have an internal one. (Apple didn't offer them with internal hard drives, though there were aftermarket solutions.) Then you don't even need to make 800K floppies: you can use the 1.44MB versions instead and you can use the SE/30 to install a Plus-compatible OS onto the external HD, then shut down both computers, attach the external HD to the Plus, turn it on, turn the Plus on, and it should boot from it. Since you've got multiple SCSI devices, make sure you've got your SCSI termination correct.

Unlike modern macOS where all localizations are included, each localization of Classic Mac OS is a separate complete set of installation disks. If you want to run classic Mac OS in French, then you need the French system installer disks. Unfortunately, System 7.0.1 seems to be the oldest one available in French on the above site.

If you wanted Canadian French:

http://download.info.applefritter.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/French-Canadian/Macintosh/System/System_7.0.1/

Or Swiss French:

http://download.info.applefritter.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/French-Swiss/Macintosh/System/System_7.0.1/

If you install System 7.0.1, make sure to install the System 7 Tuner afterward to avoid the disappearing folder bug.

If your Plus has 4MB RAM, then System 7 will work but will be slower than System 6. If you have less than 4MB RAM, you probably don't want to try running System 7; you won't have much RAM left to run any programs.

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French System 6

If you trust the integrity of OS installers posted on other web sites, here are two sources for a large collection of international System 6 installers on a burnable CD disk image:

https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/system-6-collection

https://www.macintoshrepository.org/1094-system-6-international-collection

It says it contains three French versions of System 6.0.5 (Canadian, France, Swiss). It also says you don't need a newer System 6 than 6.0.5 on a Plus.

You will still need Disk Copy on the SE/30 to access the floppy disk images. If you don't already have Disk Copy on the SE/30, you'll have get that too and somehow get it over to the SE/30 and decode it properly.

English:

http://download.info.applefritter.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/

French:

http://download.info.applefritter.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/French-Universal/Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/

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